135 checkride needed?
03-12-2008, 05:41 PM
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135 checkride needed?
Any input would be appreciated:
I've been building time logging PIC time on 91 legs with a 135 company for about 9 months now, I was wondering if i would have any problems trying to go to interviews without taking a 135 checkride? Times about 550 total, 330 multi. Just wondering if regionals would have a problem with all the time being logged without a checkride with the company. Any help/suggestions are appreciated.
I've been building time logging PIC time on 91 legs with a 135 company for about 9 months now, I was wondering if i would have any problems trying to go to interviews without taking a 135 checkride? Times about 550 total, 330 multi. Just wondering if regionals would have a problem with all the time being logged without a checkride with the company. Any help/suggestions are appreciated.
03-12-2008, 05:53 PM
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What kind of 135 checkride are you taking with those times. It's for sure not a IFR 135 ride because your about 650 hrs short
VFR 135.243(b/2.) 500TT/100xc/25nite
IFR 135.243(c/2. 1200TT/500xc/100nite/75actual or simulated
Your not going to need a 135 checkride to qualify for a 121 carrier! They could care less, I flew a Corp. Jet Pt. 91 only and they where satisfied.
VFR 135.243(b/2.) 500TT/100xc/25nite
IFR 135.243(c/2. 1200TT/500xc/100nite/75actual or simulated
Your not going to need a 135 checkride to qualify for a 121 carrier! They could care less, I flew a Corp. Jet Pt. 91 only and they where satisfied.
03-12-2008, 06:17 PM
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You do not qualify to be a 135 PIC unless it was all VMC and VFR. I think you could be a 135 SIC.
With that said, the flying you are doing is technically legal since it is 91 repo legs.
However...any interviewer is going to be EXTREMELY suspicious as to the quality of the PIC time. Did you fly the legs solo? If so, you are golden.
Or did you fly back with the same guy who flew the 135 legs? If so, the assumption is going to be that you weren't REALLY in command.
If you just need total time, probably no big deal. But if you actually need that time to be PIC, be prepared to answer some pointed questions. And know that airplane inside and out...
With that said, the flying you are doing is technically legal since it is 91 repo legs.
However...any interviewer is going to be EXTREMELY suspicious as to the quality of the PIC time. Did you fly the legs solo? If so, you are golden.
Or did you fly back with the same guy who flew the 135 legs? If so, the assumption is going to be that you weren't REALLY in command.
If you just need total time, probably no big deal. But if you actually need that time to be PIC, be prepared to answer some pointed questions. And know that airplane inside and out...
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03-12-2008, 06:19 PM
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and you dont NEED a 135 ride to get hired by the 121, but is sure helps, all other things being equal it might give you an edge over another non-135 pilot with the same times. Kinda like you dont need a masters degree to get a business job, but if you have a masters and the other applicant just has a bachelor's, guess which looks better? if the ride is on their dime, may as well take it.
03-12-2008, 06:32 PM
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yeah its just an SIC checkride, thats why im so up in the air about it. sure i would like to get the checkride before i start interviewing, its just kind of a nuissance because as soon as i take the checkride it would probably be less than a month before i try to leave. the captain flew all the 135 legs so the PIC time i logged he was in the plane, so thats a bummer.. haha
03-12-2008, 06:34 PM
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No you don't need a check ride. I have done the same thing with a family friend that owns a 135. If you fly when it's 91, they don't even need to know it was a 135 plane the leg before - You're flying 91 and that's all you need to know about.
Just be aware that having a a larger/more complex airplane in your logbook will probably be asked about so make sure to know how the engines work, weights and Speeds.
Just be aware that having a a larger/more complex airplane in your logbook will probably be asked about so make sure to know how the engines work, weights and Speeds.
03-12-2008, 06:43 PM
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I heard some good advice once. Would the flight have continued without you there? If the answer is yes, then I would be skeptical about logging the time. I suppose you could log the 91 time that you were the sole manipulator of the controls. What type of aircraft are we talking here? Just be realistic about it. If the interviewer sees 200 hours of dual given I think that would raise some eyebrows.. Just my opinion.
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