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a FO from PNCL jumpseated today said there was a ruling in favor of the pilot group and resultantly the companies must merge?? I took it with a grain of salt, seems like we would hear about such news?

mooney

Yeah Colgan has to give all Q400's to Pinnacle, INC to be flown by Pinnacle pilots on the pinnacle seniority list. All new hires at Colgan in the Q will not be transfered to Pinnacle.

mooney

just kidding nothing official yet altho the MEC email sounded optimistic...

Spooled

"The final award in the ongoing scope arbitration is expected by weeks end. While the details are still not available for dissemination the arbitrator’s decision is very favorable for ALPA. A full analysis of the decision should be available by next week."

higney85

I can guarantee that as soon as our MEC gets the ruling it will be emailed to the pilots. There are quite a few 9E guys here so word will travel fast. Nobody at pncl wishes harm on colgan- i say give them the planes and diversify the company. Problem is the 9E pilots earned the money and don't even get the respect of a fair contract. While nobody should speculate this is a public forum..... All i want out of this as a 9E pilot is for this ruling to spark a status quo infringement and get us a cooling off period. STFD.

PinnacleFO

give US (as in pinnacle and colan) planes and diversify our company together under one seniority list. No more whipsaw threats. This will be good for both companies hopefully

Jamers

I totally agree. Merging the lists gets us (colgan) ALPA, and more negotiating power to everyone. I don't even care how the lists are merged; flying with no union security or legal contract is far more dangerous.

turbojet28

How would this merger of the lists work? Will 9E pilots then be able to bid for Colgan flying and vice versa?

Airsupport

the ruling will be in our favor as i said a couple of weeks ago. i thought they were going to say something more in our last confrence call but i heard from some good sources, a couple weeks ago, that "once phil and his gang see the ruling they will go ape ****" the ruling is coming and is an obvious violation of our scope clause. like higney said i wish for no ill will between us and our colgan pilots.

as far as seniority list merger goes i have heard of several different ways that it could go.

1. a 2 for 1 merging of the seniority list. for example a guy that had been at colgan for 2 years would be placed in line with the guys that have been at pinnacle for 1 year.. and so on, and so on

2. relative seniority merging. for example a guy that is in the middle of the pack at colgan, will be put in the middle of the pack at pinnacle. a guy in the top 10% at colgan, will be placed in the top 10% at pinnacle.

not sure if i like either way but i am sure it will be as fair as they can get since none of the pilots started this mess, we just have to clean it up.

nicholasblonde

What would this mean for a new hire at 9E? Bad?