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Old 02-20-2008, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mooney
"I would call GJ pilots SCUBS only if TSA pilots went on strike.Did they, hmmmm no.Why ?"

Ummm that could be because pilots cant just "go on strike" like hollywood screenwriters or NFL players. The process usually takes at least 3 years, by that time you already have an alter-ego carrier that scummy management uses as a way around a contract.
What is a SCUB?
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:09 PM
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hell I dunno 1 step up from a scab maybe? i was just qouting
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When you guys talk about GoJet pilots hiding their ID's? You don't mean that they literally conceal the face of the cards do you?
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:34 PM
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yes, card will be flipped backwards....in ORD i try my best to keep my ID facing outward simply so someone not in the know doesn't mistake me for "them"....

Saw a blowjetter up there today who had a ALPA sticker on his case, which i found a tad ironic.
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Wow. I get the feeling these guys are treated like lepers or something.
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by flynavyj

Saw a blowjetter up there today who had a ALPA sticker on his case, which i found a tad ironic.
Now that is taking it entirely too far. Maybe he was one of the original to transfer over. someone should put a sticker with meaning over that!
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by icarosF1
AirWillie, i doupt that you know what a scab is. also NOBODY from GJ has been blacklisted by ALPA. Eagle/AAConnection is exactly the same. Did AAConnection pilots undercut AE pilots ABSOLUTELY YES. I am one of them. The GJ CRJ's would be TSA pilots they had agree to accept the flying. Just because TSA pilots don't want to fly for 1-2 dollars more that does not mean that companies will shut down. PILOTS DO NOT OWN COMPANIES. Again why TSA did not strike. We are setting standards such as 22$ versus 24$ are you kidding me ? those 2 dollars will bring the bar higher ? THATS WHY OUR SALARIES DROPED. Not because of GJ or TSA because companies offered that kind of money and ALPA SAID go ahead guys take it. NOBODY strike.Nobody did anything about it.So quot crying about who took my flying your flying etc etc and do your jobs.Stickers mean absolutely nothing.In my eyes if I see a sticker like that the only think that crosses my mind is UNPROFFESSIONAL.
Crack open a websters dictionary and you'll find SCAB:

3 a: a contemptible person b (1): a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2): a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3): a worker who accepts employment or replaces a union worker during a strike (4): one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms

TSA pilots stood up for their rights which was to get decent pay for 70 seaters, instead the company found scabs to fly for Gayjet. I don't know how you can support that.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
You know, I am going to a leadership convention in DC next week, Prater will be there for a couple of days, I will try my best to get a second with him (I am sure I wont), but I am going to ask him this very question
I, as everyone else, would like to hear an answer to that question. As the Skyway pilots always did everything the company asked, kept their heads up and keep being the best of the best. No matter how many times they got skywayed, they always kept their pride.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by icarosF1
exwaterski, Correct Hulas created GJ. Now what did your union did about it ?
NOTHING. See my dear fellow pilot what i do not understand is how all those (specific) TSA pilots or even pilots that they are having moral issues with GJ and outfits like GJ and they talk or are pro-ALPA and against scubs and all about blacklisting people, they now work in places such us Continental(talking about scubs), AirTran(ValueJet), JetBlue(ALPA overs and ex MEC there now) and i can get you a list of more.Again realise PILOTS DO NOT RUN AIRLINES.what you or I think won't change a damm thing unless someone does something about it. I would call GJ pilots SCUBS only if TSA pilots went on strike.Did they, hmmmm no.Why ? for the same reason probably that GJ pilots got the job. Got families to feed and time to built.
Alot of people may or may not like it but oh well, when my wifes brother got furlough after 26 years in the same company guess what ALPA and their supporters did feed his family neither pay his bills. Can you support that ?
Please remove my plane from your avatar, if you're not a fighter pilot or former one. I don't want to be associated with your rants!
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Originally Posted by icarosF1
AirWillie, i doupt that you know what a scab is. also NOBODY from GJ has been blacklisted by ALPA.
Originally Posted by fit29
But will the go jet pilots be blacklisted eventually? or is this just an unofficial blacklist?
No GoJets pilot will ever jumpseat on my aircraft. None of the guys I know at my airline would let them on board either. I don't develop a W&B problem or any other excuse, it's a simple no - end of discusion. Does that count as blacklist?

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