Yzerman

I got a letter a month or 2 after I left (middle of 2006) and just got another the other day. Didn't sign for the certified letter. Sounds like a mass mailing in an attempt to get any money they can. There must be literally hundreds of us out there who left before one year, and if they can get just one of us to pay up, it'll pay for the cost of all those letters and then some. I don't plan on responding, or paying. I'd rather pay a lawyer twice the amout Mesa thinks I owe them then give any more money to JO and his entourage of liars.

pilot124

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Frozen Ronin

They have to know that there's no money to really recover. Their own business practices have ensured that those who leave are usually broke, and will continue to be so for some time. I wonder what they expect to gain?

rickair7777

I'm not sure they have any rational thought process remaining...maybe just lashing out at the employees who are causing their business to fail?

OnMyWay

How did you know that it was a "pay or else" letter then?

Airborne

Mesa loosing pilots like crazy on all equipment- I want to bail also but cant afford the training contract right now but in a couple months I will start throwing couple resumes. Is there any first hand experience out there with mesa actually taking these contracts to court?
The way I look at it is Mesa cant uphold to the pilot contract why should we worry about upholding training contract.

JRA ed down to eight days off a month and probably more to follow. So much for minimum of 10 days off a bid for line holders.

Emb170man

It isn't worth it. Get the hell out now. I haven't looked back once. They have tried to get me on the contract...so far I've beat them on it. Even with the contract...it isn't worth the pain and heartache (literally...my doc let me know I dropped my blood pressure 10 points when I left Mesa). LAMA is the best thing you can do for yourself!

DrPepper

Training contracts aren't legal unless you sign a promisary note. They cant do anything with you credit because you didnt purchase anything. Im sure you didnt give them you credit card infomation on the day you sign it right.

Another thing thats not legal in most states is, having the employee pay for their uniforms. This is illegal in the state of Washington and many others. Look up this information on the department of labor website.

They had to train you for you job. If training contract were legal and save money, then Mcdonals and Burger King would have them too. You dont see them sending out letter saying "I trainned you on my fryer and you used my training to benifit youself at Wendy's."

Just keep ignoring those letters!

Pilotpip

I sent Vagabond a message hoping that she'll chime in on this thread. She's our resident lawyer. I'm sure she could give some generic advice. Regardless, you guys need to speak to an attorney. May save you quite a bit of headache because it's my understanding that there isn't too much that is legal about the contract there.

vagabond

Thanks, Pilotpip. I have never seen this training contract or do I know the circumstances of how people signed one or did not sign one. Any advice I give is going to be so general as to be less than useful. If anyone has a specific question, please feel free to PM me. Or contact a lawyer of your own.

General contract law - there must be an offer, acceptance and consideration. There is no contract without these three elements. Once there is a contract, either side must abide by it or the side following all the terms may sue you. You then have defenses you can use to say why you did not follow through with your side of the bargain. It's a long, drawn out process. In first year law school, students spend an entire semester just on Contracts.

I don't mean to be coy, but I can give more meaningful advice if I know specifics. Besides, I've been told more than once that since I'm a lawyer, I don't belong in a pilot's forum, so I'm not too inclined to post "advice" here anymore.