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Old 01-03-2008, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sigep_nm
Remember someone smarter than all of us designed these things, and the probably went to school to learn whether it needs this or that to work
I don't know about "smarter than all of us". Engineers know what works on paper - not what works in reality and operational use. If you don't believe me just ask anybody in construction...

And I'm sure 4 inches of ice IN TWENTY SECONDS meets the definition of severe icing...
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
Lesson number 1: Don't trust a Canadian that tells you their Jet doesn't need Ice Protection on the tail-feathers. Check it out next post-flight.

Besides, I like to give my birds a peck on the cheek on the Pre-flights...makes 'em feel Loved. So I guess my brain is fried as well LoL

BTW, SkyWest did teach me the two-foot rule, thank you very much!
During certification of the CRJ...Bombardier put huge blocks of Styrofoam on the tail to simulate ice. Let's just say, the FAA wouldn't certify an airplane with no tail anti-ice if it needed it.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
I don't know about "smarter than all of us". Engineers know what works on paper - not what works in reality and operational use. If you don't believe me just ask anybody in construction...

And I'm sure 4 inches of ice IN TWENTY SECONDS meets the definition of severe icing...
That is probably an exageration of how long they were in there as most pilots do but yes most engineers are stupid so I agree with you there I guess.
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Old 01-03-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sigep_nm
That is probably an exageration of how long they were in there as most pilots do but yes most engineers are stupid so I agree with you there I guess.
Want to bet? Descending through 1000 feet of soup at 2000 fpm...so sue me over ~10 seconds.
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:46 PM
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Just thought since this was a Mesa thread y'all might be interested in some news...

Some figures are being kicked around behind the scenes: hundreds of weeks of vacation have been CX to this point, and I'm not sure it won't continue to be CX all the way through '08. Per the MAG CBA the vacation is supposed to be banked, but someone pointed this out: is there any way a pilot could bank that much time and take advantage of it EVER. We're looking at a significant number of pilots having a huge number of weeks of vacation in the bank--how will they be able to take advantage of that time and not continue to contribute to the staffing problems in significant ways? I just don't see how the math will ever work on this one, and I don't see vacations happening at MAG before '09. Oh, and if they try to force a cash-out, well that will cost the company millions and right now MAG is hurting for money. Yikes.
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:27 AM
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This guy even said he was sitting in an exit row! Geez..
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ERJ Driver
Just thought since this was a Mesa thread y'all might be interested in some news...

Some figures are being kicked around behind the scenes: hundreds of weeks of vacation have been CX to this point, and I'm not sure it won't continue to be CX all the way through '08. Per the MAG CBA the vacation is supposed to be banked, but someone pointed this out: is there any way a pilot could bank that much time and take advantage of it EVER. We're looking at a significant number of pilots having a huge number of weeks of vacation in the bank--how will they be able to take advantage of that time and not continue to contribute to the staffing problems in significant ways? I just don't see how the math will ever work on this one, and I don't see vacations happening at MAG before '09. Oh, and if they try to force a cash-out, well that will cost the company millions and right now MAG is hurting for money. Yikes.

our stock just hit an all time low, we are almost at xjt stock level...

is it still the pilots fault if were the lowest paid in the industry and we are still losing money?!?!?!

hmmm my finger continuously only goes in one direction, and the fact that they cant seem to figure out the blame it appears hopeless...
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