SJS - The Career Killer (tv spot)
01-02-2006, 10:29 AM
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SJS - The Career Killer (tv spot)
SJS - The Career Killer (tv spot)
Shiny-Jet-Syndrome: The Career Killer
Sally: "Every year hundreds of children from around the world are afflicted with a paralyzing disease. Shiny-jet-syndrome. SJS."
Sally: "Thats right. Today 9 in every 10 young pilots is a victim of SJS. Take Jimmy here. Jimmy is a smart, young man. He was raised in an upper, middle-class suburb. Jimmy's dad was a Delta pilot. Jimmy has been a flight instructor here at Comair academy for 3 weeks now. See how happy he is? See how much pride Jimmy takes in his job?"
Sally: "It's now been six weeks since Jimmy started his new job. He has almost 60 hours of instructing under his belt. The symptoms of SJS have already begun to manifest themselves. Jimmy is a victim. He constantly complains about his lack of career progression. With a little over 500 hours total time and zero actual instrument, Jimmy had expected to be flying a regional jet by now."
Sally: "A year later, SJS has fully taken him over. Jimmy is a regional jet co-pilot now. Let's watch..."
Sally: "Jimmy looks happy now, he's an airline pilot. With less than one-thousand hours total time though, Jimmy is a burden to the Captains he flies with. His ego is enormous. He feels as though he is a modern day Ernest Gann or SkyKing but without the autopilot and flight director he is borderline dangerous. He is lazy, apathetic, and still angry. He had expected to be working for a major airline right now."
Sally: "SJS has finally claimed its victim. Jimmy -- for the time being -- is happy. His airline flies an armada of narrow-body, Embraer jets that carry as many as 120 passengers. Jimmy gets paid less today than a city bus driver. He earns less than an Amtrak conductor. On average he is earning more than $100/hr LESS than the major-airline pilots he has replaced. His copilot, Sean, has been an airline pilot for about one month. He is elated to be flying a big-jet for $20,000/yr. As long as his parents continue to send those allowance checks, this could be the best job ever!"
Sally: "Do YOU know someone who is a victim of SJS? Watch for these warning signs! "
· Do you know a CFI who has applied at Mesa or Boston/Maine?
· Do you know a CFI who is burned out after 6 weeks of instructing?
· Do you know a student pilot who has answered a flight school ad for "guaranteed interview with our regional airline partner"?
· Do you know a pilot who has purchased a CRJ type-rating?
· Do you know a regional-jet pilot who has purchase a 737 type-rating?
· Do you know an airline pilot who has taken concessions in order to allow their company to purchase larger airplanes?
· Do you know a pilot who believes that AirTran and Jetblue are the "majors" they've wanted to work for for "their whole lives"?
· Do you know any member of the RJDC who STILL BELIEVES that mainline pilots are hurting their career expectations?
· Do you know any airline pilots who refuse to dress in their uniform as specified by their SOP because "if they wanted me to dress better, they'd pay me better"?
· Do you know any airline pilots who carry their hats for 4-days without ever putting it on their head?
· Do you know any airline pilots who wear a backpack rather than carry adult-luggage?
· Have you flown with copilots who say, "I cant believe they pay us to do this!!"?
· Do you know any individual whose first "real" job involved carrying 50-90 people in the back of a jetliner?
· Do you know any regional jet pilot who drops the "Express" or "Connection" portion of their airline name while using their profession to attempt to pick up women in a bar?
Sally: "If the answer to any of those questions was "yes" your friend might have SJS. Watch for these warning signs. SJS is a violent and dangerous disease. If left unchecked for too long the entire airline piloting profession will be NEUTERED. It is important to stop it in its tracks. Together we can reach that goal."
"Here at the Jets R' Neat Institute we are researching cures for SJS. We've developed revolutionary cures including:
· Make minimum experience requirements to fly part 121 at LEAST as stringent as part 135 minimums -- and make it a regulation.
· Shut down all flight schools that "guarantee" interviews.
· Raise CFI pay so that pilots are more likely to spend time in that position.
· Require that each part 121 candidate have at least 500 hours PIC (not instructor time) operating within the IFR system in day and night, and in all weather conditions.
· Preference to be given to pilots who have held jobs outside of aviation.
· Bryan Bedford and Johnathan Ornstein to be executed publicly at dawn.
· Duane Woerth will be forced to watch the execution of the above before being surprised by his own execution. He's just too stupid to be left in charge of ALPA.
Sally: "We've done a lot, but you can help. For just $246 per day you can sponsor a flight instructor or regional airline pilot.
For less than the cost of a good-quality, high definition television you can sponsor an aspiring airline pilot and show them what life would be like if they actually made the money that major airline pilots used to make. This is the first step in ending SJS."
"Jimmy needs your help. Please send your check for $7626/month to:
The Jets R' Neat Institute for the Elimination of SJS
C/O Doctor Sven Rosenstein
Trailer #12
Happy Valley Trailer Park
Coraopolis, PA 15108"
Shiny-Jet-Syndrome: The Career Killer
Sally: "Every year hundreds of children from around the world are afflicted with a paralyzing disease. Shiny-jet-syndrome. SJS."
Sally: "Thats right. Today 9 in every 10 young pilots is a victim of SJS. Take Jimmy here. Jimmy is a smart, young man. He was raised in an upper, middle-class suburb. Jimmy's dad was a Delta pilot. Jimmy has been a flight instructor here at Comair academy for 3 weeks now. See how happy he is? See how much pride Jimmy takes in his job?"
Sally: "It's now been six weeks since Jimmy started his new job. He has almost 60 hours of instructing under his belt. The symptoms of SJS have already begun to manifest themselves. Jimmy is a victim. He constantly complains about his lack of career progression. With a little over 500 hours total time and zero actual instrument, Jimmy had expected to be flying a regional jet by now."
Sally: "A year later, SJS has fully taken him over. Jimmy is a regional jet co-pilot now. Let's watch..."
Sally: "Jimmy looks happy now, he's an airline pilot. With less than one-thousand hours total time though, Jimmy is a burden to the Captains he flies with. His ego is enormous. He feels as though he is a modern day Ernest Gann or SkyKing but without the autopilot and flight director he is borderline dangerous. He is lazy, apathetic, and still angry. He had expected to be working for a major airline right now."
Sally: "SJS has finally claimed its victim. Jimmy -- for the time being -- is happy. His airline flies an armada of narrow-body, Embraer jets that carry as many as 120 passengers. Jimmy gets paid less today than a city bus driver. He earns less than an Amtrak conductor. On average he is earning more than $100/hr LESS than the major-airline pilots he has replaced. His copilot, Sean, has been an airline pilot for about one month. He is elated to be flying a big-jet for $20,000/yr. As long as his parents continue to send those allowance checks, this could be the best job ever!"
Sally: "Do YOU know someone who is a victim of SJS? Watch for these warning signs! "
· Do you know a CFI who has applied at Mesa or Boston/Maine?
· Do you know a CFI who is burned out after 6 weeks of instructing?
· Do you know a student pilot who has answered a flight school ad for "guaranteed interview with our regional airline partner"?
· Do you know a pilot who has purchased a CRJ type-rating?
· Do you know a regional-jet pilot who has purchase a 737 type-rating?
· Do you know an airline pilot who has taken concessions in order to allow their company to purchase larger airplanes?
· Do you know a pilot who believes that AirTran and Jetblue are the "majors" they've wanted to work for for "their whole lives"?
· Do you know any member of the RJDC who STILL BELIEVES that mainline pilots are hurting their career expectations?
· Do you know any airline pilots who refuse to dress in their uniform as specified by their SOP because "if they wanted me to dress better, they'd pay me better"?
· Do you know any airline pilots who carry their hats for 4-days without ever putting it on their head?
· Do you know any airline pilots who wear a backpack rather than carry adult-luggage?
· Have you flown with copilots who say, "I cant believe they pay us to do this!!"?
· Do you know any individual whose first "real" job involved carrying 50-90 people in the back of a jetliner?
· Do you know any regional jet pilot who drops the "Express" or "Connection" portion of their airline name while using their profession to attempt to pick up women in a bar?
Sally: "If the answer to any of those questions was "yes" your friend might have SJS. Watch for these warning signs. SJS is a violent and dangerous disease. If left unchecked for too long the entire airline piloting profession will be NEUTERED. It is important to stop it in its tracks. Together we can reach that goal."
"Here at the Jets R' Neat Institute we are researching cures for SJS. We've developed revolutionary cures including:
· Make minimum experience requirements to fly part 121 at LEAST as stringent as part 135 minimums -- and make it a regulation.
· Shut down all flight schools that "guarantee" interviews.
· Raise CFI pay so that pilots are more likely to spend time in that position.
· Require that each part 121 candidate have at least 500 hours PIC (not instructor time) operating within the IFR system in day and night, and in all weather conditions.
· Preference to be given to pilots who have held jobs outside of aviation.
· Bryan Bedford and Johnathan Ornstein to be executed publicly at dawn.
· Duane Woerth will be forced to watch the execution of the above before being surprised by his own execution. He's just too stupid to be left in charge of ALPA.
Sally: "We've done a lot, but you can help. For just $246 per day you can sponsor a flight instructor or regional airline pilot.
For less than the cost of a good-quality, high definition television you can sponsor an aspiring airline pilot and show them what life would be like if they actually made the money that major airline pilots used to make. This is the first step in ending SJS."
"Jimmy needs your help. Please send your check for $7626/month to:
The Jets R' Neat Institute for the Elimination of SJS
C/O Doctor Sven Rosenstein
Trailer #12
Happy Valley Trailer Park
Coraopolis, PA 15108"
Last edited by mike734; 01-02-2006 at 10:36 AM.
01-02-2006, 11:54 AM
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How about any airline pilot that continues to work for a company with inept management. I suppose anyone of them may as easily be diagnosed with the farocious desease. Clearly if you do not terminate yourself from any position with corupt leadership you are a brave soul on the frontlines of the war against airline pilots. Oh woe as us, oh woe as us!
Oh and I'm also curious, I was under the impression that minimum experience for PIC 121 was more stringent than the minimums for PIC 135. SIC does not have any experience requirements, other than the required certificates, for either set of regulations. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Oh and I'm also curious, I was under the impression that minimum experience for PIC 121 was more stringent than the minimums for PIC 135. SIC does not have any experience requirements, other than the required certificates, for either set of regulations. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
01-02-2006, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hifly
How about any airline pilot that continues to work for a company with inept management. I suppose anyone of them may as easily be diagnosed with the farocious desease. Clearly if you do not terminate yourself from any position with corupt leadership you are a brave soul on the frontlines of the war against airline pilots. Oh woe as us, oh woe as us!
Oh and I'm also curious, I was under the impression that minimum experience for PIC 121 was more stringent than the minimums for PIC 135. SIC does not have any experience requirements, other than the required certificates, for either set of regulations. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Oh and I'm also curious, I was under the impression that minimum experience for PIC 121 was more stringent than the minimums for PIC 135. SIC does not have any experience requirements, other than the required certificates, for either set of regulations. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
01-02-2006, 01:09 PM
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You know I was talking to my uncle who is an engineer for AT&T. Being a regional worker based in atlanta, that has a soninlaw employed at delta and a nephew trying to becopme a pilot, he follows the Delta story and the rest of the airlines carfuly. He expalined something that made a lot of since to me. He said when he got into telecommunications he didnt just show up on the door step and say hey train me then pay me! He acctully had to go to college to learn how to do his job. Then he had to enlist in the army and go fight in vietnam to get "job experience". Every body else has to do that to, go to college then go build experience, So how bad is it that our industry is following the trend of the rest of the country? How is the new guys fault? If any of you would have walked into one of those seminars and heard all about how in x many of months you could be doin what others only dreamed, and you didnt already know about being a pilot and "the right way" to do it wouldnt have you? I didnt and here I am livin pay check to paycheck not knowing if I am even goin to make enough to pay bills while I watch others who dont get payed much but they know are getting payed.
Look at the rest of our economy people retirements are being slashed and pay is being cut EVERYWHERE! Im sure it doesnt have to do with some 21 yearold buying a CRJ type rating. The finger should not be pointed this way. Look at the unions that let let pay decrease. Or look at the unions that let pay go up so high it ruined the whole industry when one bad day came along. Or look at YOUR elected government I seriously doubt that all the officals there were the ones you voted against.
I started Instructing almost 2 years ago. Ive got nothing to show for it now except for hours in my log book and greying hair at a young age. The best I ever got when I strated tho was when you take your students remember you were a student once. So I can only pass that along remember we were all new, or still are new, once to.
Lets stick together. Lets work together. Lets fly together. Im not saying give in and accept it but lets find a better way to make a stand.
Look at the rest of our economy people retirements are being slashed and pay is being cut EVERYWHERE! Im sure it doesnt have to do with some 21 yearold buying a CRJ type rating. The finger should not be pointed this way. Look at the unions that let let pay decrease. Or look at the unions that let pay go up so high it ruined the whole industry when one bad day came along. Or look at YOUR elected government I seriously doubt that all the officals there were the ones you voted against.
I started Instructing almost 2 years ago. Ive got nothing to show for it now except for hours in my log book and greying hair at a young age. The best I ever got when I strated tho was when you take your students remember you were a student once. So I can only pass that along remember we were all new, or still are new, once to.
Lets stick together. Lets work together. Lets fly together. Im not saying give in and accept it but lets find a better way to make a stand.
01-02-2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Punkpilot48
I started Instructing almost 2 years ago. Ive got nothing to show for it now except for hours in my log book and greying hair at a young age.
Besides what you should be learning and the experience you should be gaining you are teaching people to fly and they will be gratefull to you for the rest of thier lives. If you bring that attitude in the cockpit with your students I bet the just love to fly with you.
01-02-2006, 02:51 PM
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Wow! Way to miss the point. I cant deny that I can fly better now and have a more broden since of the aviation subject how exactly can you support that claim?
Unless you teach only stundets working on their IFR rating how exactly does that help with the airline carrer that is sought after??? Since Ive had my CFI long before I started instructing the truth of the matter is that 90% of my studnets are CFI applicants. Im pretty sure teaching someone how to teach a turn around a point in a 4 place non complex normally aspirated airplane isnt going to prepare me to fly at high altitudes in faster aircraft. I could be wrong here Im open for people to tell me that too but I want to hear something else than that it teaches you aircraft mastery.
While Ill admit that I dont always agree with a pilot with just 300~700 should be flying a fast airliner....isnt it also something to be said that at these programs that it is a 300~700 hour instructor getting these guys "ready to go" to their type ratting or pft job? just something to think about
Oh and some defending for my self....Ive sent 20 guys up in the time Ive been instructing all but one has passed first try. Im sure they dont hate me too much
Unless you teach only stundets working on their IFR rating how exactly does that help with the airline carrer that is sought after??? Since Ive had my CFI long before I started instructing the truth of the matter is that 90% of my studnets are CFI applicants. Im pretty sure teaching someone how to teach a turn around a point in a 4 place non complex normally aspirated airplane isnt going to prepare me to fly at high altitudes in faster aircraft. I could be wrong here Im open for people to tell me that too but I want to hear something else than that it teaches you aircraft mastery.
While Ill admit that I dont always agree with a pilot with just 300~700 should be flying a fast airliner....isnt it also something to be said that at these programs that it is a 300~700 hour instructor getting these guys "ready to go" to their type ratting or pft job? just something to think about
Oh and some defending for my self....Ive sent 20 guys up in the time Ive been instructing all but one has passed first try. Im sure they dont hate me too much
01-02-2006, 05:32 PM
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[QUOTE=mike734]SJS - The Career Killer (tv spot)
Shiny-Jet-Syndrome: The Career Killer
Sally: "Do YOU know someone who is a victim of SJS? Watch for these warning signs! "
· Do you know a CFI who has applied at Mesa or Boston/Maine?
Hey, Mike I have got to say this is quite humorous and I am a CFI and I am young, 21 to be exact. What I am curious about is that above you mentioned Boston Maine Airways. Believe it or not I worked for them a year or so ago. Aug 04' to Oct 04' as ramp agent. I did want to fly their J31's but they management sucked and they fired the ALPA 727 crews so I got out there. I am not on a black list or anything I am??
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Shiny-Jet-Syndrome: The Career Killer
Sally: "Do YOU know someone who is a victim of SJS? Watch for these warning signs! "
· Do you know a CFI who has applied at Mesa or Boston/Maine?
Hey, Mike I have got to say this is quite humorous and I am a CFI and I am young, 21 to be exact. What I am curious about is that above you mentioned Boston Maine Airways. Believe it or not I worked for them a year or so ago. Aug 04' to Oct 04' as ramp agent. I did want to fly their J31's but they management sucked and they fired the ALPA 727 crews so I got out there. I am not on a black list or anything I am??
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01-02-2006, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ERJ135
I am not on a black list or anything I am??
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