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11-10-2007, 01:38 PM
#81
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,817
Just because some were (maybe you??) doesn't mean we were all completely lost for an entire year...
11-10-2007, 05:45 PM
#82
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: CRJ
Posts: 2,356
man, i guess being a squadron leader is nothing compared to being a batallion commander... 
11-11-2007, 09:23 AM
#83
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: Leftof longitudinal
Posts: 1,899
I spoke that argument from personal experience and from the majority of crews I have worked with over my career. It is not a personal denigration. They are not "lost" rather focused more in the present and short term. New lifestyle, new domicile, new aircraft, new airports, ops, etc. Union issues are long term and are not as readily apparent in the beginning as previously discussed. YMMV. Like I have mentioned, our profession is much like a medical doctor, we have a residence time. Called being an F/O etc. Capts are wise to mentor to our newer folks. CRM. Glad you are above average.<g> I am but an average pilot with normal learning curves in new jobs.
11-11-2007, 06:08 PM
#84
Freightmama!
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 757/767 FO
Posts: 2,880
What in the WORLD are you talking about? Do you know the unsafe military guy I flew with? Sorry, but purposely doing a checklist slow on the takeoff roll with landing traffic onto a crossing runway because you are mad at the captain (among other things) is UNSAFE! And the guy was ex-Navy. Oooooh, did I put all you military guy's panties in a bunch? Sorry, I didn't mean to make you think that I was implying that all military pilots are unsafe (because I wasn't), but this one was. guess y'all are perfect. Whoops, sorry, I didn't realize that. If that makes me arrogant, oh well, then I guess I am. All I know is I'm glad he's not flying for the airlines anymore.
11-11-2007, 06:47 PM
#85
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
Actually the arrogant part of your statement FP was when you said that the fact he was flying what you deem a commuter meant he couldnt get a job at a better ( in your opinion... ) airline...... when you couldnt POSSIBLY know his reasons for choosing to fly where he did.
NOTHING about whether he was safe or not..... etc. I have know plenty of pilots both Civilian trained and trained in the military who were not worth a damn.
NOTHING about whether he was safe or not..... etc. I have know plenty of pilots both Civilian trained and trained in the military who were not worth a damn.
11-11-2007, 07:38 PM
#86
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: A220 CA
Posts: 608
THE UNION DOESN'T NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT THEY ONLY MAKE SURE THE COMPANY ABIDES BY THEM.
Stop saying ALPA, or any other union for that matter, made a crappy contract. The pilots did it. They accepted whatever was offered. In the case of GoJets the company made the contract because there were no pilots when it was created.
Stop saying ALPA, or any other union for that matter, made a crappy contract. The pilots did it. They accepted whatever was offered. In the case of GoJets the company made the contract because there were no pilots when it was created.
i love it. that's a good one. i don't think other people on here figured out you were making jokes. excellent!
11-11-2007, 07:50 PM
#87
Che Guevara
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,408
Which part the union negotiating or them enforcing? I can see your sarcasm on the enforcing the contracts but I'd hate to be the one to let you know that if you have a crappy contract it's because of your pilots negotiating it and your group accepting it.
11-12-2007, 03:56 AM
#88
La Familia Delta
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: B-717 FO / C-17 AC
Posts: 2,467
What in the WORLD are you talking about? Do you know the unsafe military guy I flew with? Sorry, but purposely doing a checklist slow on the takeoff roll with landing traffic onto a crossing runway because you are mad at the captain (among other things) is UNSAFE! And the guy was ex-Navy. Oooooh, did I put all you military guy's panties in a bunch? Sorry, I didn't mean to make you think that I was implying that all military pilots are unsafe (because I wasn't), but this one was. guess y'all are perfect. Whoops, sorry, I didn't realize that. If that makes me arrogant, oh well, then I guess I am. All I know is I'm glad he's not flying for the airlines anymore.
11-12-2007, 05:34 PM
#89
Freightmama!
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 757/767 FO
Posts: 2,880
Actually the arrogant part of your statement FP was when you said that the fact he was flying what you deem a commuter meant he couldnt get a job at a better ( in your opinion... ) airline...... when you couldnt POSSIBLY know his reasons for choosing to fly where he did.
NOTHING about whether he was safe or not..... etc. I have know plenty of pilots both Civilian trained and trained in the military who were not worth a damn.
NOTHING about whether he was safe or not..... etc. I have know plenty of pilots both Civilian trained and trained in the military who were not worth a damn.
I didn't mean it in a mean spirited way. All I meant by that was that most of the time military pilots are able to get on with a major airline right out of the military, (so there is no need to go to a commuter) which, IMO is great!
11-12-2007, 05:36 PM
#90
Freightmama!
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 757/767 FO
Posts: 2,880
Just kidding! They've all been great, truly.
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