A10crewdawg

What's the latest with Compass as far as expansion goes and what's with the PIC type right now for new hires?

XtremeF150

Well, last I heard everyone is getting type's but it doesn't matter because everyone is being paid as F.O.'s so what is the type worth to ya?
We have 5 a/c....4 in operation currently....

15 hard lines company wide...(Ca only) using the rest of the company sitting RSV and using them to fill FO seats not used for IOE. I have been here for 4 months and I'm still several month from a hard line at this rate.

I got paid $450 today....thats pathetic....forget the fact that I'm an airline CA....I think those ppl at Walmart make more every 2 weeks than that.....My wife can make more than that in 2 nights waiting tables......BS!

XtremeF150

It looks like the word is finally getting out. I saw an email advertising a bonus if you refer someone. Must be running out of suckers in MSP.

FlyerJosh

So quit if you don't like it. Or better yet, go get a second job as a Walmart Greeter. From my understanding, you certainly have the time.

No offense, but there was plenty of info posted on the boards and elsewhere about the company. Word I hear is that a grievence has been filed on the pilots behalf and back pay is probably coming. Either way, you should have known that you probably weren't going to make any better than min guarantee for quite some time since there seems to be a surplus of pilots and a shortage of aircraft.

The fact is, if you took the job and expected captains pay from day one without any written agreement to that fact, you set yourself up. I don't care what RC, JK, or any other manager might have said. If it ain't in writing, you're not going to get it if you're a represented union member.

The flip side is that I talk to plenty of people over there (almost daily) that have more positive outlooks that some of those posted here. Most of the people that I talk to at Compass (line pilots or otherwise) understand that it's a start up and as such, there are delays and a learning curve. Things aren't as smooth as they'd like, but they aren't bottom of the barrel either.

EVERY regional that's hiring is experiencing a shortage. 90% of them are offering bonuses to either new hires or referring employees. It doesn't surprise me that they are offering "recruiting bonuses" to employees. The management at ACA did the same thing with good results. Why hire somebody off the street that you don't know when you can spend a couple extra bucks and get somebody that understands the company culture, the job, and the people because of an internal relationship? In the end, recruiting bonuses cost less money since people are more likely to stay longer, thus reducing overall training costs for new hire turnover.

LifeNtheFstLne

Easy Josh, don't jump to conclusions. When Xtreme was hired at CPS, he was one of the first guys on the list. At the time, there was NO info. on the boards about the pay issues and confusion regarding training schedules. You know the airlines well enough to know that irregardles of whether or not something is written down - it doesn't mean a thing. What we need to all agree on is that there was a lot of overpromising and underdelivering. You can't fault a guy for feeling cheated in that regard. We all knew we'd be getting min guarantee, but there's an enormous difference between min F.O. and min CA. There aren't just one or two people that took the bait on this one. There are many, thus being the driving force behind the large grievance. I'm not holding my breath for a speedy resolution.

Sparky

I have to defend Xtreme on this one! If he quits he has a $12,000 contract over his head! We were told in our interview that we would get CA pay from day one, and getting an acceptance letter stating that not only are you a CA, but a checkairmen as well, then posting CA rates on it. To me that constitutes written proof. The first 2 classes recieved the same offer, and they did recieve everything they were promised, why would we expect anything different? That's why we are going to win the greivance, but that's awhile from now, we have families and obilgation now to take care of. It's a gut wrenching feeling to be tricked and deceived, and not be able to food on the table. As for info on the forums about this place, there was hardly any one I got hired. I don't know that many positive people hear, everybody I know are mad as hell! Perhaps the first 12 guys here are happy, because they are getting good lines and proper pay. As for Xtreme, I'm sure he's like many of us here who are polishing up our resumes and sending them out. Right now they have greivances on over 30 issues, so they have a lot of things to do to make this place right. Perhaps they will get everything resolved and this will be a good place to work, only time will tell, but in the mean time guys like Xtreme are only putting out info that can be helpful to other people.

FlyerJosh

Well there seem to be varying stories on the issue, but as I stated before, I only know what I hear from the numerous folks that I know who work for CPS. To each their own opinion.

What I have heard is that Extreme should expect to see a good sized retro check on the 13th of November (retro for IOE pay as well as CA retro from completion of IOE through the end of the month). Also retro pay should be tacked on to his first December check to cover the 1st 15 days of November.

Of course that doesn't cover all of the time that was spent in training, but it's a start.

If you guys really have an issue with what you feel is a breach of employment contract (particularly those of you who started before a contract was ratified), there are other ways to collect the retro pay outside of the grievance process. Remember you can always file a small claims tort, or press for legal cancellation of any employment/training agreement that you signed (or didnt) due to breach of contract on the company's behalf.

aircraftdriver

How are they paying CAs who fly as FO. I've heard different stories as well on this one.

FlyerJosh

It's my understanding (from a crewmember who has done it) that pilots holding captain slots (MSP E175 CA) are paid at captain wages regardless of the seat they fly in.

LifeNtheFstLne

Anyone left this place yet?