trunk junk

I think like it or not it is going to be the future of the airlines (at least for many foreign airlines). Not many countries have a vast general aviation industry like the united states or a huge military to supply pilots and not many governments are going to want thier airlines to hire too many americans.

Boeing is one of the backers of this. I think it will be happening soon, but not in the US, here people will pay for thier own training.

flynavyj

Can't remember if it's been adopted overseas yet or not, but it's already been rumored and the FAA had been looking into it for the U.S.

Truth of the matter is the airlines are freaked out by that "pilot-shortage" that is always over the next hill, but it seems that they're attempting to do something about it, which says there might actually be something to this shortage they're predicting. It would create a quick way for them to supplement the number of available pilots, it'll increase costs (if they had to pay for it) but, if that's the cost of operating, so be it in their case. The other option is to fight for the remaining pilot supply whatever way you can (incentives, benefits, pay) which would be great for the industry from our standpoint, unless the companies all start folding left and right...with the current legal system, that'll push the industry further into ruin, as they drop our benefits, pay, and lifestyle again just to stay afloat.

prican1121

I don't think it's a good idea. Sounds like a marketing scam just for someone to make money. Especially with some low-time pilots they look to the captain for many decisions to be made. Now imagine this low-time pilot who has always had someone else there with them. I am a low-time pilot myself and am trying to be the FO that helps offer a solution and is not always Captain dependent. That would be kind of hard for someone to do if they have always flown with someone to walk them through any problem they encounter.

BlueMoon

Here is the issue as far as I'm concerned. At least now the low time pilots (I was one when I got hired) at least were solo and PIC for some little bit. They were in the plane, by themselves, and had to make some kind of decision that no one else would correct for them.

These MPL pilots will have never have even acted as a PIC or been in a plane by themselves, so they won't even know any better. They will have always have had the security blanket next to them. Their first decison they ever make will be with a bunch of people depending on them. That is scary.

But hey I have been living the "High Life" for the last 4 hours and watching football with friends, so I may not be thinking clearly,

ehaeckercfi

Why does somebody that cant fly a C150 think they have any business flying an airliner with peoples lives in their hands???

POPA

If you were living the high life for four hours, you weren't thinking clearly to start with.

Ftrooppilot

Why does somebody who can fly a C150 think they have any business flying an airliner with peoples lives in their hands ?

Lots of people learn to fly in multi engine jet aircraft.

saab2000

You're joking, right?

I was trained overseas and while all of our training was initially done with single pilot flying in mind (because a Seneca is not a multi-crew airplane) it was done with the intention that everyone in the program would be working for an airline.

Crew incapacitation is one of the major tenets of the airline training over there and is covered from day one. I have never seen it addressed in the US.

Not everything done in the US is the best or only way of doing something. Our training over there was not exclusively Multi-Crew training, but the MCC (Multi-Crew Concept) was a big deal. CRM is much deeper than just "Don't be a jerk", which is how it is addressed here.

HercDriver130

Well gee why dont you go fly there then......

Seriously though, broad assertions like yours that CRM is only addressed in that way are just plain stupid.

BlueMoon

No, I am not.