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Old 09-27-2007, 04:37 PM
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Some people might still be a little edgy talking about the Pinnacle 3701 flight but there is a good artcile on it and how we can learn from it in this months AOPA magazine. Page 135 for anyone who gets it. If you dont' receive it then you need to pay your dues to AOPA and sign up. They do A LOT of good.
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:16 PM
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It was good read. Always would like to fly FL410 and above but, in an airplane that can do it.
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:52 PM
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Flying above 410 is overrated. Especially for the poor guy that has to wear the mask. The only time I'll go up there is to get over tops of weather. Otherwise the risk and other associated pains (continuous use O2) isn't worth it.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:00 PM
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i think you have to be really special to go up that hi and make at least 150k a year
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I tried FL410 once in the SAAB with 33 pax 2400lbs of fuel outta MEM this summer...but only got to 190 (took forever) .
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:23 PM
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Whats the big deal? Unless you're avoiding wx or something, is the ride that much different from that of the mid to upper 30's?
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
Whats the big deal? Unless you're avoiding wx or something, is the ride that much different from that of the mid to upper 30's?
It's the whole "mine is bigger than yours" manly thing going on there...LoL

If you're a Pilot, you've got that Ego trip in there too!!
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
Whats the big deal? Unless you're avoiding wx or something, is the ride that much different from that of the mid to upper 30's?
definitly took it on the serious side...funny stuff man
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At what altitude do you need to be on continuous O2? I see on flightaware planes liken the 777 doing FL410 all the way from SFO to DEN. That mask for 2 hours must suck!
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Anything above 410 requires one crewmember to be on O2. As for why you go up there, dunno. We fly around regularly at FL390/400/410 because:

a) we can.
b) it's always blue on top (if you can climb there).
c) you get direct a lot more often when you're above 95% of the traffic.
d) it's nice to go over top the weather.
e) it's even nicer to go over the top (direct), when you hear everybody else slogging it out down below (uhh, center- can we get twenty right for weather?)
f) the winds can be better (the start dying off above 380 or so).
g) fuel burns are better.
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