flycrj200

Turbodog, is the leaflet you are talking about produced by the Union trying to sell the idea of a flowthrough agreement? I have not been to ops for a long time and have not seen it yet. If you can, please PM me more info about it.

I'm with you ragarding the union, they are not helping us in anyway. But at the same time, us as a pilot group are not doing our job to protect our self because we are not voting during the union elections. I looked at the results of the elections for the last union rep, only five people voted for him, none for the other guy. I'm sure he only got the votes of his friends. We need to everything possible to vote people that we think will work hard to save the jobs of our pilot group.

flycrj200

I would not compare our MEC now with the MEC during the strike. They have nothing to do with each other. Our MEC now is shortsighted, and just like our company, wants to benefit a small group of people not the whole pilot group. The MEC have a personal vendetta against DS and the management team. That is not a benefit for us. When you negotiate with someone, it’s a give and take game. You have to be fixable to obtain what you want.

H46Bubba

This sounds like something the Delta MEC would come up with in order to... as one would say; wipe the slate clean for JC Lawson's opposition against hiring furloughed Delta pilots with their seniority numbers intact.

flycrj200

Im not sure if this would be good or bad for us.

cessna157

Hey guys, hate to change the subject, but I am here on a mission.

My father is the vice president of a major two-way radio contactor for service/sales/etc of Motorola radios. Beginning in January or February of 2009, the entire southwestern ohio digital radio network will start being rebanded to accomodate cellular channels. This will require the reprogramming of all digital two-way radios in police/fire/ambulance/etc (over 10,000 radios). This project is expected to take 12-18 months. My father's company is looking to hire 5-15 full time, well educated folks to complete this task. He suggested that there will be many pilots hitting the street for approximately this time frame.

If you are interested in more details, PM me with your name, phone, and email address and I'll start a list.

DappemAV8

The MEC of today is trying to vindicate what they perceived as wrongs committed by the company during the era of the strike. They were not the acting MEC but they were on property at that time and they are still using the narrow minded way of thinking that created the strike in 2001. Everyone admired the new contract out of the strike, giving Comair some of the highest pay rates in the industry. However, times have changed, big time! Soon after the new contract was signed, 9/11 occurred. Then a few years later bankruptcy and then oil was $140 per barrel. Our MEC seems to be stuck in the pre-9/11 days, riding the high of the 'good ole days' with a new contract and cant seem to get why the company is in the position it's in now. And with the wave of pilots hired here post-9/11 and post bankruptcy, it's incredibly disappointing that the current MEC has lost sight of these facts and continues to try the tactics that caused the strike in the first place in an environment that is 100% different than in 2001.

Spooledup

I wasn't comparing our current MEC to the MEC during the strike. I was comparing the actions of the pilot group then to what it is now. We are not near as unified and much of our pilot group never experienced what it was like to be in a cohesive group and the benefit that had for us. No matter what the current MEC does, we don't have to agree with it, but we should still stand together for now and vote in the next election for change. (how many times have we heard that in the last year)

As far as the way the union is handling the furloughs, our anger should be directed at management for hiring 200+ pilots they didn't need based on the fact that they wanted to be in a position to cover any flying that came their way without any definite plans for more aircraft. We have 206 pilots on the street right now as a direct result of that and 120 more in January, but all I hear is now our union is mishandling the situation. They are not perfect, but I'll stand by them as this situation is not our fault. I applaud the furloughed pilots on this board that stand behind the union even though they are furloughed. They get it.

Boomer

You could remind management that they testified in bankruptcy court that Comair would be competitive and win Delta flying if they could change the pilot contract. Guess what... the judge (Adlai Hardin) agreed, threw out the contract making Comair pay second lowest to Mesa so Comair could grow, and here we are...

Mesa, Pinnacle, and Chaupublic are negotiating for higher pay.

ASA has a new higher-paying contract.

SkyWest has a new... well, no contract, but their benevolent dictator has granted them increased pay.

Mesaba has snap-back provisions and is getting increased pay.

Compass? I don't have a clue what they're doing, but they're the only one in DCI not awarded Comair aircraft.

Where's Comair? Shrunk 34% from before BK. Because of crummy management, not pilot pay.

Tell management that and see what they say.

Spooledup

What do you think our tactics should be?

Boomer

There is no I in ALPA, but there is a ME and a U in resume.