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#8801
So did this pilot not participate in ASAP? Are you saying that if he did, he would be protected, or even if he did that he isn't protected. It seems that if the pilot isn't protected, then we definitely should pull out of that program. The company has too many open loop holes that work in its favor for this day and age.
#8802
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: Crj-50 CA
Posts: 32
TLR training date change
BEFORE I CALLED the chief pilot I did a bit of homework. I looked through the line awards to get some idea of how many people had been awarded the day that I wanted. The bid packet originally had opening for 8ca/8fo each day mon-fri. The day I wanted was showing about 5 ca that had been awarded that day. Therefore I knew they couldn't object on those grounds.
Then I called the CP and explained the situation and he got the day moved for me. No real big deal.
I did the training and there were probably 13 people there. Instructor indicated the largest class had been 15. There were seats available for at least 16, maybe 20 don't remember. If there were more people they could probably pull in more chairs.
Class started at 9, ordered pizza in so lunch was short, were done by 1 with the TLR portion but then there was a presentation about, ummm, I forget. Something about flaps being extended before taking the runway. Don't remember exactly. Were released by 2 or so.
#8803
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,197
It was one pilot that was disciplined. So you are saying the company used information from the ASAP program against the pilot? Are you familiar with the event? Seems to me that the F/A's screaming in the back were the ones that reported the event to the company, not the ASAP program...seems to me the company knew about it outside the program.
But hey, first time this has happened in six years, right? Why not blow up the program and leave everyone's certificates exposed. Makes perfect sense.
But hey, first time this has happened in six years, right? Why not blow up the program and leave everyone's certificates exposed. Makes perfect sense.
#8804
The captain on that flight is a complete tool. I flew with him for a 4 day and will never ever fly with him again. The ASAP program, as said before, did not alert the company to this. The FA's, the FO, and pax were all calling the company. If the ASAP program didnt protect you from action from the company then it is no different that ASRS.
#8805
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,197
Dude, the program protects your CERTIFICATE from the FAA. It is not supposed to protect you from the company - although in four years, I don't recall this ever coming up before so apparently the company is not going after too many people in the ASAP program. Would you rather do a carpet dance or lose your livelihood?
#8806
The captain on that flight is a complete tool. I flew with him for a 4 day and will never ever fly with him again. The ASAP program, as said before, did not alert the company to this. The FA's, the FO, and pax were all calling the company. If the ASAP program didnt protect you from action from the company then it is no different that ASRS.
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