Comair updates?
10-09-2008, 06:36 AM
#8771
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Position: FO
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So why does the union think that bailing on the ASAP program is good for pilots or in our bet interest? If the company does not honor the agreement, then let's get dirty with the company, not the pilots. Our union is great a some things and terrible at others. One of the things that I always admired about the union was the safety committee. Now, even though the committee is still alive and well, one of our (the pilots) greatest safety resources is gone. Is it gone forever? First the no confidence vote for DS and now this! What's next?
I think it is a good idea.
10-09-2008, 06:42 AM
#8772
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Position: CRJFO
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While I understand your point, isn't there something they can do against (for lack of a better term) the company. I would understand if there were multiple cases of this happening. Was there any dialog between the company and the union regarding this case?
10-09-2008, 07:34 AM
#8774
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We do over and over again. Grievances are essentially the same thing. They break the contract and we win. We havent lost one since I have been working here. The company continually cost itself thousands and thousands of dollars every time we go through this process only to lose every time.
10-09-2008, 08:20 AM
#8775
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We do over and over again. Grievances are essentially the same thing. They break the contract and we win. We havent lost one since I have been working here. The company continually cost itself thousands and thousands of dollars every time we go through this process only to lose every time.
10-09-2008, 11:47 AM
#8776
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I have been filling out ASRS forms since the courts decided that the ASAP info could be used in the 5191 court case.
10-09-2008, 01:20 PM
#8777
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Position: ERJ FO
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not to spread a rumor, but i heard that the furlough guys can cash out sick time and vacation before the furlough. is there any truth to this or was who ever i was talking to talking out of there wrong?
10-09-2008, 01:21 PM
#8778
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I don't know about sick time, but I know that the contract (whatever that's worth) states that furloughees can cash out vacation.
10-09-2008, 01:49 PM
#8779
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Aviation Safety Action Program - MOU
The MOU protects the pilot from certificate action and keeps the report confidential from the company. It does not prevent the company from taking action against a pilot for something that is "public".
10-09-2008, 01:50 PM
#8780
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