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09-24-2008, 09:16 AM
#8321
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The main problem for the Q400 is ATC in the Northeast corridor sees it as a turboprop and keeps it on the low routes. My buddy is a Q400 captain at Colgan and that's the problem there having right now. With them operating below 18,000, you're not getting that fuel savings profile. Of course most of our operations now days is up in the northeast. Basically all it would take is to get with local atcs and Tracons to explain that the Q400 is not the tp of yesterday, but operates more like an RJ andrequires higher routing to get the required performance.
09-24-2008, 09:18 AM
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The main problem for the Q400 is ATC in the Northeast corridor sees it as a turboprop and keeps it on the low routes. My buddy is a Q400 captain at Colgan and that's the problem there having right now. With them operating below 18,000, you're not getting that fuel savings profile. Of course most of our operations now days is up in the northeast. Basically all it would take is to get with local atcs and Tracons to explain that the Q400 is not the tp of yesterday, but operates more like an RJ andrequires higher routing to get the required performance.
09-24-2008, 09:18 AM
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I'd fly a Q400 in a heartbeat, but I think Delta's DCI system is resistant to turboprops. The only turboprop I know of flown under the Delta flag is the ATR (ASA), and the EMB-120 (SKW), which are both in the process of being phased out. From what I know Delta's Medallion customers are very proud of the fact they only fly jets.
Remember the B-1900's being flown under DCI and how long that lasted? Granted a B-1900 and a Q400 are apples and oranges, I just think the general consenus of the public is that they dont trust propeller aircraft.
Remember the B-1900's being flown under DCI and how long that lasted? Granted a B-1900 and a Q400 are apples and oranges, I just think the general consenus of the public is that they dont trust propeller aircraft.
09-24-2008, 09:21 AM
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I think passengers will get over hating props once they ride on the new Q-400. I haven't myself but i have heard they are a lot quieter than say a dash 8 or atr. and you would think delta would get over not wanting props in order to save big $$$ on fuel burn. I'm in the pool still and I'd fly the shi! out of the Q-400. Granted that wouldnt be for a while but hopefully if they got some in the near future it might save some jobs at least, which would also help me out in the long run :-P
09-24-2008, 09:29 AM
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I think they only fly the EMB-120 on the United side. So that just leaves the ATR, however Delta is looking to save money. Delta is slowely not as concerned about its medallion customers and more about saving money.(ie. getting Freedumb). So the Q400 may be a good option.
09-24-2008, 10:11 AM
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I think we will never see Q400s here, but if they would get them, they should put the Q on routes like CVG-ORD, DTW, PIT, STL where we run the CR7/9 and put those up in JFK for the longer routes. Horizon is doing very well with the Q on the West coast.
09-24-2008, 11:18 AM
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Why is everyone so pessimistic about us getting the Q400s? This was the second conference call where JS mentioned this type..and he said the 50s are on the way out. I'd be willing to bet that Comair/Delta announces an order by March. Especially if oil prices go back up.
09-24-2008, 11:52 AM
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I remember when Island Air was operating a lone Q400 back in 2006, and ATC had loads of fun working that thing in with the Hawaiians and the Alohas. It could climb like crazy and do ITO-HNL in the same amount of time as the 717s and 737s. The pilots loved that thing, especially compared to the Dash 8-100/200, and from a passenger standpoint, it was a pretty nice ride. It wasn't as quiet compared to the -100 as I thought it would be though.
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