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Old 06-20-2008, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
Well, if its that bad, I'm sure you could get on at WalMart. I'm sure they're hiring.
No, how about we stop accepting low standards? Sounds like a better solution to me.
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:13 PM
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I taxied out of ORD, sat on Twy D for 3:50, then returned to the gate and cancelled. Got paid 0:24. That's all part of the deal.
Either way, the time is wrong for us, and its not changed. And trust me, we tried to work the system.
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:17 PM
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Any of you stock guys know what the impact of this statement would mean to Mesa?
None. The 8-k is just a notice of insider trading..so someone inside Mesa bought or sold over a certain amount of shares. Probably someone unloading before the de-listing. Evidently they had a typo.

The stock still trades, just not on the NASDAQ.

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Old 06-20-2008, 07:44 PM
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Cessna, I have been cancelled before and got paid for the whole flight. Being displaced as a lineholder is great. I had one flight at LGA where we got type 1 deice and taxied out. Then is started snowing again and there was a long line....Long story short we taxied back got type 4 refuled and departed. I called the CP and since we didnt deplane the passengers we got paid for the whole thing. THey know you have to open the door to refuel. If you dont deplane then you should get paid.
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Old 06-21-2008, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by theaviator
I did absolutely nothing at a job once. I got paid for the ENTIRE time I was there. I think this is part of the problem in the airline industry. "oh its not that bad, we could work for {insert airline name here}". Most of us accept it because we love to fly and hated that other job.

Honestly though, it is that bad. Ive also heard the whole we have to be competitive issue. That's fine, be competitive but why are we competing for pay with other ALPA airlines? Shouldn't ALPA have some sort of standardization here?
Why didn't you stay at that job then?
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Old 06-21-2008, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
I taxied out of ORD, sat on Twy D for 3:50, then returned to the gate and cancelled. Got paid 0:24. That's all part of the deal.
Originally Posted by cessna157
Well, if its that bad, I'm sure you could get on at WalMart. I'm sure they're hiring.
Good example why this industry is so f-up! So, let's say you taxi out and sit in line for 2 hours and then you have some kind of emergency, have to coordinate with FA, ATC, run QRHs and then return to the gate. You shouldn't be compensated for that? Doesn't even have to be an emergency, when you sit in line for hours and return to the gate for more fuel, you should be compensated for the entire time. You are still responsible for all the passengers. But it's ok, right? As long as you get to fly a big shiny jet!

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No, how about we stop accepting low standards? Sounds like a better solution to me.
Well, that's exactly whats wrong with this industry and country. I'm sure Carlos Mencia could have said it better
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJDriver
Good example why this industry is so f-up! So, let's say you taxi out and sit in line for 2 hours and then you have some kind of emergency, have to coordinate with FA, ATC, run QRHs and then return to the gate. You shouldn't be compensated for that? Doesn't even have to be an emergency, when you sit in line for hours and return to the gate for more fuel, you should be compensated for the entire time. You are still responsible for all the passengers. But it's ok, right? As long as you get to fly a big shiny jet!
I didn't say thats how it should be. I said thats how it is. Do you think I liked sitting on the airplane with a less than friendly captain stuck on a taxiway with 35 other aircraft waiting to takeoff? Do you think I liked sitting on an airplane for 4+ hours and getting paid for 24 minutes?

Thats the contract that we signed. Yes, I do realize that quite a few of us got on with Comair post-contract-negotiation. But as ALPA, we're supposed to think that we're a team, right? Our coworkers and union leaders fought long and hard for the contract that we work under. You may say "well I voted that contract down" well, too bad, its a democracy that we live in where the majority speaks for everyone. If you don't like it, work to get it changed, leave, or just be miserable but keep it to yourself. But if you're going to work to change it, be productive about it. Don't just sit and whine like too many of us do.

Sorry, rant over. Fire away.
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:05 AM
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Hey Bluemoon, do I dare ask how much all of the camera equipment cost him?
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by theaviator
No, how about we stop accepting low standards? Sounds like a better solution to me.
Great! So can I sign you up for union work?
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Old 06-21-2008, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by cessna157
I taxied out of ORD, sat on Twy D for 3:50, then returned to the gate and cancelled. Got paid 0:24. That's all part of the deal.
If the flight is canx I thought if you are a line holder you were pay protected for the original block...
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