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Old 03-28-2011, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Thank u 4 u'r advice.

Option 1 - start over at a new regional, back on year 1 pay, no vacation, commute to another city, bottom of a 3000 pilot list. No thanks.

Option 2a - stay at Comair on year 8 pay, hope that "pilot shortage" actually happens in the next two years, go straight to Delta/Contided/USScare/JetBlue etc.

Option 2b - stay at Comair, get furloughed, leave aviation.

I'm taking Option 2.
What was option 2?

I see 2a and 2b.
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Old 03-28-2011, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Thank u 4 u'r advice.

Option 1 - start over at a new regional, back on year 1 pay, no vacation, commute to another city, bottom of a 3000 pilot list. No thanks.

Option 2a - stay at Comair on year 8 pay, hope that "pilot shortage" actually happens in the next two years, go straight to Delta/Contided/USScare/JetBlue etc.

Option 2b - stay at Comair, get furloughed, leave aviation.

I'm taking Option 2.
Two years? You really think it will be around that long?
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Old 03-28-2011, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chow
What was option 2?

I see 2a and 2b.
Option 2 is stay at Comair. Whether that becomes 2a or 2b is entirely beyond my control.
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Old 03-28-2011, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
Two years? You really think it will be around that long?
No. But I'm not about to start over at to ASA or Mesaba hoping to upgrade in five years.
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Old 03-29-2011, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
Because the "higher pay" isn't really that "high" anyway (even at $42 an hour and 75 hours a month is only $37,800 a year, plus the per diem that you spend on the road anyway). If you're going to look for a career outside aviation, why not look now and take a job that will certainly pay more than 3rd or 4th year pay...and have a better QOL?
I’m always looking for a better higher paying job, and I would defiantly leave now if I find something good. What I’m saying is that I would rather wait tell the ship sinks before I go to another regional. Starting at first year pay is just not an option for me at this time.
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Old 03-29-2011, 07:12 AM
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I’m always looking for a better higher paying job, and I would defiantly leave now if I find something good. What I’m saying is that I would rather wait tell the ship sinks before I go to another regional. Starting at first year pay is just not an option for me at this time.

you can always supplement your pay as a male prostitute.

I mean, one way or another we're all getting screwed anyways so you might as well make some $$.
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Old 03-29-2011, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
Because the "higher pay" isn't really that "high" anyway (even at $42 an hour and 75 hours a month is only $37,800 a year, plus the per diem that you spend on the road anyway). If you're going to look for a career outside aviation, why not look now and take a job that will certainly pay more than 3rd or 4th year pay...and have a better QOL?
Here's the really sad part. I spent the better part of my adult life saving money to pay for flight school. I finally do it, make it to Comair and get furloughed. Now I'm working as an armed security guard and firearms instructor, making 60k a year. Well, it is on an unnamed govt site and required an associated military background and PT test, but w/e. Next month I'm moving on to do antipiracy work and will be over 6 figures working just over half the year. I doubt I'll be back to an airline and I'll just buy my own plane if I feel the need to fly.
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Old 03-30-2011, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chow
you can always supplement your pay as a male prostitute.

I mean, one way or another we're all getting screwed anyways so you might as well make some $$.

Are you hiring for that position?
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Tink
Here's the really sad part. I spent the better part of my adult life saving money to pay for flight school. I finally do it, make it to Comair and get furloughed. Now I'm working as an armed security guard and firearms instructor, making 60k a year. Well, it is on an unnamed govt site and required an associated military background and PT test, but w/e. Next month I'm moving on to do antipiracy work and will be over 6 figures working just over half the year. I doubt I'll be back to an airline and I'll just buy my own plane if I feel the need to fly.
Sounds like a good time! Really, if anyone asks about being a pilot, I tell them to have a career outside aviation and buy a plane (or rent one) if they want to fly. Flying as a hobby is what it's all about. Remember the days when you headed for that $100 burger? Or jumped in a plane for a weekend get-away?

It seems that even if you move on to a major, corporate, or any other pilot job, the whole industry is so unstable and uncertain. One thing that I came away with from being furloughed for a year and a half at Comair was a fear of the unknown future in aviation. I got recalled, people were upbeat and looking at the future, then four months later there was the news of being furloughed again! I know corporate guys that were making six figures, until the owner decided to sell the plane, and they were out a job. I know people that moved from regionals to airlines that didn't make it and closed shop. I know people from CAL that are STILL furloughed. All of this has made me unsure of making major purchases or financing anything. I would hate to be one of the people that had their house forclosed on, or car repossessed because my employer downsizes or closes. I now find myself not only saving for retirement, but also saving for "just in case it all falls apart).
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:13 AM
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Sounds like a good time! Really, if anyone asks about being a pilot, I tell them to have a career outside aviation and buy a plane (or rent one) if they want to fly. Flying as a hobby is what it's all about. Remember the days when you headed for that $100 burger? Or jumped in a plane for a weekend get-away?

It seems that even if you move on to a major, corporate, or any other pilot job, the whole industry is so unstable and uncertain. One thing that I came away with from being furloughed for a year and a half at Comair was a fear of the unknown future in aviation. I got recalled, people were upbeat and looking at the future, then four months later there was the news of being furloughed again! I know corporate guys that were making six figures, until the owner decided to sell the plane, and they were out a job. I know people that moved from regionals to airlines that didn't make it and closed shop. I know people from CAL that are STILL furloughed. All of this has made me unsure of making major purchases or financing anything. I would hate to be one of the people that had their house forclosed on, or car repossessed because my employer downsizes or closes. I now find myself not only saving for retirement, but also saving for "just in case it all falls apart).
CAL has recalled everyone...
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