Comair updates?
Agree. Wonder how many more of will leave now when they see they're getting downgraded, or are getting more junior and back on reserve?
I just wonder what the company will do if some of those 62 are leaving? Are they just letting them go or are they still looking for 62 downgrades?
As far as I can see, they plan for around 850 pilots on the list at ECD, but I think we will have less than that towards the end of the year
I just wonder what the company will do if some of those 62 are leaving? Are they just letting them go or are they still looking for 62 downgrades?
As far as I can see, they plan for around 850 pilots on the list at ECD, but I think we will have less than that towards the end of the year
Agree. Wonder how many more of will leave now when they see they're getting downgraded, or are getting more junior and back on reserve?
I just wonder what the company will do if some of those 62 are leaving? Are they just letting them go or are they still looking for 62 downgrades?
As far as I can see, they plan for around 850 pilots on the list at ECD, but I think we will have less than that towards the end of the year
I just wonder what the company will do if some of those 62 are leaving? Are they just letting them go or are they still looking for 62 downgrades?
As far as I can see, they plan for around 850 pilots on the list at ECD, but I think we will have less than that towards the end of the year
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Originally Posted by ;960547
How many are on the list now?
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We have 2 early outs planned for April (1 C7C and 1 DRC), and we also have 1 C7C retiring in the next couple of days.
There were about 975 active pilots on the list after checking all bid packages for April. That number could be slightly off since so many are changing categories and are in training and bid production seems to have a hard time figure out where the heck they are.....But it's close to that number anyway.
We have 2 early outs planned for April (1 C7C and 1 DRC), and we also have 1 C7C retiring in the next couple of days.
We have 2 early outs planned for April (1 C7C and 1 DRC), and we also have 1 C7C retiring in the next couple of days.
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So what's with schedulers giving out SD's for calling in sick. I got my second one in recent months. The first one, I woke up feeling bad during my window, but didn't have anything on my line yet. They called me later to try and give me something and it was then I called in sick. She said I wasn't allowed to do that.?! I should have called in the night before and you're not allowed to call in during your window. Where is this written down?
The other day, I called in 90 minutes before a Ready Rsv. She gave me an SD for giving too short notice. I guess you have to give two hours notice. I guess when I feel bad, I'm only suppose to call in at certain times?
The other day, I called in 90 minutes before a Ready Rsv. She gave me an SD for giving too short notice. I guess you have to give two hours notice. I guess when I feel bad, I'm only suppose to call in at certain times?
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So what's with schedulers giving out SD's for calling in sick. I got my second one in recent months. The first one, I woke up feeling bad during my window, but didn't have anything on my line yet. They called me later to try and give me something and it was then I called in sick. She said I wasn't allowed to do that.?! I should have called in the night before and you're not allowed to call in during your window. Where is this written down?
The other day, I called in 90 minutes before a Ready Rsv. She gave me an SD for giving too short notice. I guess you have to give two hours notice. I guess when I feel bad, I'm only suppose to call in at certain times?
The other day, I called in 90 minutes before a Ready Rsv. She gave me an SD for giving too short notice. I guess you have to give two hours notice. I guess when I feel bad, I'm only suppose to call in at certain times?
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The call prior to beginning duty is a courtesy. It isn't reasonable, nor enforceable, to expect employees to know for certain they will be well fourteen hours from now when their window closes...or at any time during that window.
The FAA expressly forbids one to fly if one is not fit to do so. There is nowhere in the regulations that reads "A pilot must self-assess fitness for flight by no later than 6 a.m., and if fit at that point, must complete any flights, planned or unplanned, that are assigned during the following fourteen hours."
Do you seriously think the company is going to be so stupid to take disciplinary action if you call in sick after you perform a personal aircraft evacuation just before handing out the manifest so you could puke in a trashcan on the ramp in view of the passengers? Four hours? Give the company as much heads up as you can, but don't feel bad if you get sick inside of four hours prior to report. God knows they don't give a **** about you and your family.
I think the decision to wait to call in sick until an assignment was given might be a bit of a stretch, though that's certainly no more unethical than contract violations the company commits on a daily basis.
Personally, I would probably have called in sick as soon as I realized I wasn't fit for duty, but I also think it's reasonable if one is borderline fit for duty to take a look at the assignment once it's given and make a decision whether they are able to proceed. There's a big difference between coming in for a DAY out & back, and being fit to accept a four-day trip if one is borderline sick. The last thing I want to do is have a flight I was scheduled to operate cancel at an outstation because I was trying too hard and couldn't continue.
Ultimately, issuing SD's for sick calls is simply pilot pushing. The SD is the only tool a scheduler has to take out their frustration from being put in a no-win situation. If the airline was adequately staffed, and crewmembers were being utilized effectively, pushing crewmembers to operate in a potentially unsafe manner wouldn't be necessary.
Remember, the management philosophy at Delta with regards to Comair is "Take away resources until the operation becomes unsustainable, then give back 1% above that level." They're simply trying to wring every last ounce of effort out of the worker bees in order to increase the amount of honey they can hoard for themselves.
The FAA expressly forbids one to fly if one is not fit to do so. There is nowhere in the regulations that reads "A pilot must self-assess fitness for flight by no later than 6 a.m., and if fit at that point, must complete any flights, planned or unplanned, that are assigned during the following fourteen hours."
Do you seriously think the company is going to be so stupid to take disciplinary action if you call in sick after you perform a personal aircraft evacuation just before handing out the manifest so you could puke in a trashcan on the ramp in view of the passengers? Four hours? Give the company as much heads up as you can, but don't feel bad if you get sick inside of four hours prior to report. God knows they don't give a **** about you and your family.
I think the decision to wait to call in sick until an assignment was given might be a bit of a stretch, though that's certainly no more unethical than contract violations the company commits on a daily basis.
Personally, I would probably have called in sick as soon as I realized I wasn't fit for duty, but I also think it's reasonable if one is borderline fit for duty to take a look at the assignment once it's given and make a decision whether they are able to proceed. There's a big difference between coming in for a DAY out & back, and being fit to accept a four-day trip if one is borderline sick. The last thing I want to do is have a flight I was scheduled to operate cancel at an outstation because I was trying too hard and couldn't continue.
Ultimately, issuing SD's for sick calls is simply pilot pushing. The SD is the only tool a scheduler has to take out their frustration from being put in a no-win situation. If the airline was adequately staffed, and crewmembers were being utilized effectively, pushing crewmembers to operate in a potentially unsafe manner wouldn't be necessary.
Remember, the management philosophy at Delta with regards to Comair is "Take away resources until the operation becomes unsustainable, then give back 1% above that level." They're simply trying to wring every last ounce of effort out of the worker bees in order to increase the amount of honey they can hoard for themselves.
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I was just stating the policy as written when I worked there. The scheduler is most following orders from above to intimidate, just like the policy of talking to a CP for every sick call was meant to be an intimidation tactic. The CP's hated those phone calls.
I would guess a phone call to a CP will have it taken care of.
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