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Old 02-16-2011, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
Those people actually have stones.

That and our worst day is still a million times better than their best day.
Location, Location, Location. 90% of their problem is that they live in a horrible place.

As far as stones go...you're right. I'm just saying, if everyone complains about everything in the airline industry, get together and do something about it...or just shut up and quit complaining.

A goal accomplished leads to another success, then another, and so on. A goal that is left to die leads nowhere.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:06 AM
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I dont think Comair was a billion dollar airline when RA became the head of Big D. What maliciously dismantled Comair was a strike for nothing and an MEC that has had the pipe dream of becoming part of Delta. Note to self dont bite the hand that feeds you. Look at ASA and Skywest, neither rocked the boat and both are doing well. Just my 2 cents from a guy who saw Comair Grow, get bought by Delta, then go on strike and since fall apart.
Well considering you watched comair so well you would have see it had its biggest grown ever was for the three years after the strike. When are you and the others like you going to realise the strike has nothing to do with what is happening now at comair. Managment loves the fact that idiots like you are never going to stand up to them because of your ignorant belief that comair is being dismantled because of the strike.
Grow up.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cmrflyer
Well considering you watched comair so well you would have see it had its biggest grown ever was for the three years after the strike. When are you and the others like you going to realise the strike has nothing to do with what is happening now at comair. Managment loves the fact that idiots like you are never going to stand up to them because of your ignorant belief that comair is being dismantled because of the strike.
Grow up.
Stand up how? demand what from what position of power? we struck for 89 days, did it cripple Delta? What did that strike even "win"? Would Delta even notice a strike now? Are you one of the people that thinks writing a nasty letter to RA is going to get your flight benefits back?

Wake up, man. Getting all rowdy just accelerates the demise, because at the end of the day, Comair LOSES Delta money, so why would you put up with that?
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:28 AM
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Stand up how? demand what from what position of power? we struck for 89 days, did it cripple Delta? What did that strike even "win"? Would Delta even notice a strike now? Are you one of the people that thinks writing a nasty letter to RA is going to get your flight benefits back?

Wake up, man. Getting all rowdy just accelerates the demise, because at the end of the day, Comair LOSES Delta money, so why would you put up with that?

What on earth are you babeling about?
read the post again, I am stating the plain fact that comair grew after the strike at its fatsest rate ever. people blaming comairs demise on the strike are wrong.
what is the point of you post???
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by cmrflyer
What on earth are you babeling about?
read the post again, I am stating the plain fact that comair grew after the strike at its fatsest rate ever. people blaming comairs demise on the strike are wrong.
what is the point of you post???
I am "babeling" about the point that you said "Managment loves the fact that idiots like you are never going to stand up to them". I would assume that makes you an advocate for "standing up to them". So how are you going to do that?

We struck for 89 days. Yep, and we took delivery of all the airplanes that we had ordered. And when that order book closed, we started the shrinking. Did you forget that during that three years we went from three DCI carriers (Comair, Skywest, ASA) to something like Nine? You really think that had nothing to do with the strike?
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Old 02-17-2011, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cmrflyer
Well considering you watched comair so well you would have see it had its biggest grown ever was for the three years after the strike.
Actually, Comair still grew, but grew less rapidly in the two years after the strike. The first three months after the strike was spent getting pilots requalled, then hiring picked up again for about a year and a half as the 70s and 40s (ordered before the strike) were delivered.

By the end of 2003 hiring was winding down and only a couple new-hire classes were run in 2004-2005 until we took the dangling carrot from FredEx.
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Old 02-17-2011, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cmrflyer
Well considering you watched comair so well you would have see it had its biggest grown ever was for the three years after the strike. When are you and the others like you going to realise the strike has nothing to do with what is happening now at comair. Managment loves the fact that idiots like you are never going to stand up to them because of your ignorant belief that comair is being dismantled because of the strike.
Grow up.
Grow up, really? It's simple cause and effect. Comair struck and 89 days later got a TA that gave them the highest cost structure among it's competition. Thus it became very easy to undercut them and still be profitable. Delta is just doing what every large corporation does and tries to get its product cheaper
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Old 02-17-2011, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Delta is just doing what every large corporation does and tries to get its product cheaper
And in the process turned a 1.5 billion dollar investment into junk and poured money into their competition (USAir, Frontier, Midwest) through third parties (Republic, etc).
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And in the process turned a 1.5 billion dollar investment into junk and poured money into their competition (USAir, Frontier, Midwest) through third parties (Republic, etc).
I know what they're doing, and I don't like it either. Heck, they were doing the same with Mesaba. I was just trying to point out it was an indirect cause from the strike and current contract. Just because it didn't happen immediately doesn't change that. There is much I don't understand in big business. I think nowdays all they care about is the dollar and their shareholders, cause it sure doesn't seem like they care about the majority their decisions affect. It's all about making the most money, the quickest way possible. Being whollly owned allows them to take a loss and a business write off, which is easier and more cost effective that trying to break contracts with other regional carriers. Regional carriers are changing, and will once again be a stepping stone. I wish you all the best of luck
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Old 02-17-2011, 10:20 PM
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Actually it was a $2.1 billon, they already had $750 million invested, were you guys actually there?
We grew faster after the strike than ever before.

My point about standing up to managment is they now use comair as an example to all otheres that you dont' mess with them.
comairs problem stems from the fact the are cvg based and nobody wanted to buy into that market, plain and simple, do you really think asa is a better product?
if you do you really have lost it.

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