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Old 09-03-2010, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotrob23
and mesa only has a handful of 200 left anyway

Yep 6 on the Go! operations
and 10 at US Airways Express (All operating in the west)
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquito
I saw this on airliners.net, I don't know if anybody posted it.

"Interestingly, in the 8/27 issue of Aviation Daily, the average block hour operating cost was listed for a number of CRJ-200 operators, the only operator with higher costs was Mesa.

Mesa - $2231/hr
Comair - $2203/hr
Air Wis - $1638/hr
Skywest - $1389/hr
ASA - $1339/hr
Mesaba - $956/hr
PSA - $953/hr
Pinnacle - $730/hr"

I thought it was interesting. I wonder if Daddy D want us to the cheapest HO! I mean OH.


Mosquito,

Those numbers don't make sense unless they include a lot of costs not directly related to operating the aircraft.

I mean really, three times the cost of Pinnacle? Do Pinnacle pilots pay management to fly the planes? Does COMAIR pay cash at the local FBO for fuel? How do you cost three times more?

The only possible thing that I can think of is that they included management bonuses.

I don't believe those numbers.

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Old 09-03-2010, 03:16 PM
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Has anyone send NG4 an email about why the hell they recalled in the first place with all this crap going down?
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Old 09-03-2010, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Mosquito,

Those numbers don't make sense unless they include a lot of costs not directly related to operating the aircraft.

I mean really, three times the cost of Pinnacle? Do Pinnacle pilots pay management to fly the planes? Does COMAIR pay cash at the local FBO for fuel? How do you cost three times more?

The only possible thing that I can think of is that they included management bonuses.

I don't believe those numbers.

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Hey Scoop,

I am trying to find the article that the poster on airliners.net found that info on. Here is the link and maybe you have better luck.
Comair Parks 56 Planes Slashes Staff, No Buyer — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net

The post is number 20
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Old 09-03-2010, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquito
I saw this on airliners.net, I don't know if anybody posted it.

"Interestingly, in the 8/27 issue of Aviation Daily, the average block hour operating cost was listed for a number of CRJ-200 operators, the only operator with higher costs was Mesa.

Mesa - $2231/hr
Comair - $2203/hr
Air Wis - $1638/hr
Skywest - $1389/hr
ASA - $1339/hr
Mesaba - $956/hr
PSA - $953/hr
Pinnacle - $730/hr"

I thought it was interesting. I wonder if Daddy D want us to the cheapest HO! I mean OH.
I'm just amazed that anyone can operate a CRJ for $730! The engine maintenance on this aircraft is around $500-600 an hour. So that means you split $130-230 an hour between the three crew members, the ramp crew that works the plane, and everything else needed to operate a flight? Then think of the fuel costs...which I guess is picked up by D.
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Old 09-03-2010, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Diver Driver
Of course! Extra money, PPAS: Pilot Pay Augmentation System.
Doesn't much matter on reserve and a 50 hour block month
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Old 09-03-2010, 05:48 PM
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Just an observation: Anyone notice that these ALPA FastRead emails never mention OH? One of the biggest announcements in Comair history happened this week, yet they don't mention it. I never see them mention our furloughed pilots either, whether still out, or just getting back.

Just an observation
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Old 09-03-2010, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
Just an observation: Anyone notice that these ALPA FastRead emails never mention OH? One of the biggest announcements in Comair history happened this week, yet they don't mention it. I never see them mention our furloughed pilots either, whether still out, or just getting back.

Just an observation
Exactly what I was thinking. Only mention the good things and ignore the bad. How can the pending decimation of one of their groups not get any press? Maybe because DAL is more important to them anyway. Sweep it under the rug and no one will notice.
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Old 09-03-2010, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Mosquito,

Those numbers don't make sense unless they include a lot of costs not directly related to operating the aircraft.

I mean really, three times the cost of Pinnacle? Do Pinnacle pilots pay management to fly the planes? Does COMAIR pay cash at the local FBO for fuel? How do you cost three times more?

The only possible thing that I can think of is that they included management bonuses.

I don't believe those numbers.

Scoop

I agree... I have seen other articles where the cost were VERY different. Some funky math going on there.
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Old 09-03-2010, 08:39 PM
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question-

I remember someone using there expired ATP written on a checkride after they were furloughed. You just have to have an airline employee number right? So if you go to another airline, all is still good right?
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