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Old 06-04-2010, 08:50 AM
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Question. Say I go back August 1st, which I am, none of that "I'm gonna weight my options thing", I picked that date because of prior family vacations and to stay away from JFK. But, lets say someone junior to me goes back at one of the earlier dates and the bid for DTW goes very senior (which may or may not happen because of commuting). If there are pilots below me who get CVG because of DTW going senior, what happens to me when I come back and want CVG and now can't get it? Also, does it matter that I was CVG based when furloughed? I know I could possibly go hunt for the answer but if there's someone out there who knows off the top of their heads that'd be grrrreeeaaat.

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Old 06-04-2010, 09:12 AM
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i believe you would have to wait for the next vacancy bid. Pls correct me if i am wrong
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:13 AM
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Yeahhhhh......Junior guys wishing those eligible for recall get the boot. I brought this up a few months ago and had a couple of guys say they wished we got canned so they'd move up a number. One guy in particular was real hot to trot for us to lose our jobs so he can move up a number and said if we don't want the job, we should go away. What don't you rocket surgeons and brain scientists get? If those of us getting recalled bypassed, you'd probably move up a number anyways as we wouldn't be accruing longevity. I've said it here before and I'll say it again, we're our own worst enemy.
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by irrelevant
If you're on the fence about returning, it might be worthwhile to log on to epic and check the monthly line awards. The majority of pilots are seeing T.A.F.B. of well over 300 hours...and a very large percentage are "on the road" 350 hours/mo. or more...and this is if they live in domicile.

It may not be the same job it was when you left.

P.S. I have no vested interest in any furloughed pilot resigning their seniority number.
We are going back to reserve. Not going backto holding a line! There are no illusions.
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohiocrjfo
We are going back to reserve. Not going backto holding a line! There are no illusions.
Being paid on rig and being on reserve are not mutually exclusive. Irrelevant is right on target. I'm on reserve and have been lucky enough to credit at LEAST 85 hrs per month and that's not on rig. It's plenty easy to be paid on TAFB on reserve if you're being used every day. The not-so-secret dirty little secret these days is to bid reserve if you want to increase your chances of being home at night.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbox
Question. Say I go back August 1st, which I am, none of that "I'm gonna weight my options thing", I picked that date because of prior family vacations and to stay away from JFK. But, lets say someone junior to me goes back at one of the earlier dates and the bid for DTW goes very senior (which may or may not happen because of commuting). If there are pilots below me who get CVG because of DTW going senior, what happens to me when I come back and want CVG and now can't get it? Also, does it matter that I was CVG based when furloughed? I know I could possibly go hunt for the answer but if there's someone out there who knows off the top of their heads that'd be grrrreeeaaat.
Let's clear this up...

You have a seniority number just like everyone else, you are just a number to the company like everyone else.

Everyone getting recalled (except VOLUNTARY furloughs) will be recalled to JFK.

If someone junior to you decides to go back in June, that does not make him senior to you! He will still be below you.

Now, the vacancy bid that is suppose to come out around June 14th, which apparently will include DTW and a few CVG slots will be open to ALL PILOTS and everyone will be able to bid! So, if you really want CVG, update your standing bid to reflect your preferences.

If you cannot hold CVG you'll obviously go to DTW for the time being, until a vacancy bid will be published again for CVG.

If you have specific questions you should probably contact RP at Crew Forecasting and Planning!
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:15 AM
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Sadly going back to Comair will be an improve in QOL for a lot of people. I know it will be for me. I will get paid more, work less, and get benefits. I could care less about TAFB at this point because I have been pretty much homeless since Comair too scared to get settled anywhere.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ReadyToQuit
Sadly going back to Comair will be an improve in QOL for a lot of people. I know it will be for me. I will get paid more, work less, and get benefits. I could care less about TAFB at this point because I have been pretty much homeless since Comair too scared to get settled anywhere.

That's kind of ironic, with your screen name and all.


But I agree. I've been working in the medical field for the past year. After seeing the way things are run in that industry, I can't wait to get back to the more regulated/stable life of an airline pilot. I'll get more sleep and make more money.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ReadyToQuit
Sadly going back to Comair will be an improve in QOL for a lot of people. I know it will be for me. I will get paid more, work less, and get benefits. I could care less about TAFB at this point because I have been pretty much homeless since Comair too scared to get settled anywhere.
Lol if you were/are/prior to the furlough wanted to quit "ReadyToQuit" then why go back?
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Old 06-04-2010, 01:25 PM
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Just listened to JB new message, and I also want to thank all the crew that is picking up open time. Thanks to you I will still be at home for the summer.
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