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Old 05-28-2010, 02:43 PM
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Not coming from Comair! If we were loosing 4 more a/c there would not be a recall or it would be a much smaller one. There's no way Comair could cover a 1,000+ block hour increase if we lost a/c. We'd essentially be over-utilizing our a/c and that would cause the amount of mx issues to skyrocket.
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fjetter
Just curious what your source is on this. I know Horizon was looking to move to an all Q400 fleet and was looking to get rid of their 700's. I certainly hope they ain't coming from CMR but stranger things have happened.
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by H46Bubba
Not coming from Comair! If we were loosing 4 more a/c there would not be a recall or it would be a much smaller one. There's no way Comair could cover a 1,000+ block hour increase if we lost a/c. We'd essentially be over-utilizing our a/c and that would cause the amount of mx issues to skyrocket.
While I hope it doesn't happen, Comair did go from hiring 300 guys one day to furloughing them all the next. Crazier things have happened.
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Old 05-28-2010, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers
I don't trust management one bit! They don't give a rats about you, your family or your career, and we have seen that in the past. I'm not going to help out the company, I have to do what is best for me and my family, because the company wouldn't help me either if it were the other way around. It is is not only Comair management, it's also DL!

I am happy to finally see some good news for Comair, but I also feel bad for the Freedom guys, which is the only reason we got this flying and I hope this recall with be permanent and they can bring back some more pilots, but Comair still has a lot of obstacles in front of them, including contract negotiations and I hope they won't pull what UPS Mgmt. is doing right now to their pilots and I sincerely hope that Comair is not being used like usual as a reserve regional to "temporarily" cover the F8 flying while DL is looking to assign it again to some other DCI carrier.
Exactly. When management at Comair demonstrates integrity by honoring their commitments, and does so for a length of time greater than they've spent not living up to their word, I'll be the first to step up and go the extra mile.

Unfortunately, this recall once again clearly shows the lack of talent, vision, innovation, and leadership over in the G.O. The company is getting additional flying not because it is leading the regional segment of the industry in innovation, efficiency, and customer service. The block hour increase is solely because a competitor failed, and Delta finds itself quickly needing replacement lift.

These extra block hours can disappear just as unexpectedly as they appeared, and when Comair management is content to do nothing more than answer the phone when it rings from Atlanta and say "Yes Sir, whatever you want." I find it difficult to believe our efforts as employees are in any way connected to the company's destiny.
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Old 05-28-2010, 03:59 PM
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Does anyone remember what the recall training footprint is? Also, will we get IOE/OE at the end? A side effect of this is I am undifferencing from the 700/900.
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Old 05-28-2010, 04:20 PM
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I know all the flying can disappear quick but you gotta remember they are recalling everybody to jfk which is closing. Why would you recall to jfk and than displace them right away and pay for moving expenses and then furlough? Thats a lot of money. Yeah everybody can say the hire 300 to furlough and there are a bunch of idiots but that would be really stupid.
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Old 05-28-2010, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ReadyToQuit
I know all the flying can disappear quick but you gotta remember they are recalling everybody to jfk which is closing. Why would you recall to jfk and than displace them right away and pay for moving expenses and then furlough? Thats a lot of money. Yeah everybody can say the hire 300 to furlough and there are a bunch of idiots but that would be really stupid.
Money is not an issue for Comair/DL. Opening/closeing bases, displacements, sim training all costs a lot of money! They don't care! They gotta do what DL says. I remember just a few months ago DL wanted to expand huge in the NE and now look what they are doing. Yes, everyone says they wouldn't recall just to furlough again a few months, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.
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Old 05-28-2010, 05:00 PM
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Dude, you have been furloughed for how long? I think you've "undifferenced" sufficiently.

You are going to have to go through the entire training again (you might get away with an abbreviated indoc) , welcome to part 121 ops.



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Does anyone remember what the recall training footprint is? Also, will we get IOE/OE at the end? A side effect of this is I am undifferencing from the 700/900.
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Old 05-28-2010, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquito
Super Regional (ASA) is recalling and getting 4 crj 700. I hate to think where are those coming from. I would hate it to get one day of good news.

Hate to say it maybe you know who was right.

You are correct about Atlantic Southeast on the recall and the A/C. Now as to your other concern about getting them from Comair, That I have not confirmed yet. But it will come out in time. Although Comair is calling back, you must remember what Happened when JFK was placed on you guys. I do Believe people resigned as a result. Now they are putting DTW on you guys full force. This is more likely a way to be prepared for the same problem and what you need to be aware of is growth. Does this make you grow bigger our is it possible attrition? Just like it has been said from another post, Comair has hired one day and let go the next. Do you really trust them.
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Old 05-28-2010, 06:10 PM
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i believe the 4 planes are coming from Horizon, whom I believe is trying to go all Q400
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