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Old 10-31-2009, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Easy - because when Delta pays millions to contract carriers they have no control over where that money goes (bail out USAir and United, purchase Frontier and MidWest).

Wait, maybe that's a good reason not to give millions to contract carriers?
It makes perfect financial sense for Delta to pay contractors a profit so airlines like Republic can turn around and use that money to acquire other carriers that directly compete with Delta.

Who in their right mind would want to pay an entity that you 100% own the cost of doing business..when you could pay a little extra for a direct competitor's new billboard saying how much Delta sucks and that you should fly their shiny jets?

I don't know about you, but why should I pay my son $10 a week to mow the lawn, when I could pay the neighbor $20 a week to do the same job...It just doesn't make sense.

PSH and you pilots think you understand economics
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by On Autopilot
Anyone hear the story about R.A. at the shareholders meeting?
He was asked why in the hell are you contracting work out to contract carriers when you have 3 wholly owned?

They say he refused to answer the question after it was posed to him over and over. Let the revolt begin!!!
I've had this question for over a year. I asked a shareholder friend of mine to submit that question to RA at the next shareholder meeting or conference call. He may not owe an employee group that answer but he absolutely does to shareholders.

If I were a shareholder, I'd be flippin' ****ed knowing my stock is stagnant at someone else's gain for no "reasonable" rationale.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:28 AM
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Just to be fair, RA wasn't reponsible for any of these contracts. That was on Gerald Grinstein's watch. RA has had to deal with them and do what he can to shed them. Freedom didn't live up to it's part of the contract which gave Delta it's first contract to cancel. They offered to pay off MAG to cancel Freedom's contract, but JO gave them the finger, so Delta canceled anyways. They were able to buy off Xjet's contract and Big Sky went belly up.

Delta has already come up with a cost and plan for cancelling Chautauqua and S5's contract. If the stockholders are indeed on RA's butt, then I'd look for some contract cancellations in March when Chautauqa and S5's contract can be cancelled. Delta might have to take on the leases on those aircraft if BB pushes for it per the contract. SkyWest is safe and ASA is pretty safe, until those performance milestones come due. If I remeber correctly have to make themselves cheaper than Compass and Mesaba to stay in the game.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by H46Bubba
Just to be fair, RA wasn't reponsible for any of these contracts. That was on Gerald Grinstein's watch. RA has had to deal with them and do what he can to shed them. Freedom didn't live up to it's part of the contract which gave Delta it's first contract to cancel. They offered to pay off MAG to cancel Freedom's contract, but JO gave them the finger, so Delta canceled anyways. They were able to buy off Xjet's contract and Big Sky went belly up.

Delta has already come up with a cost and plan for cancelling Chautauqua and S5's contract. If the stockholders are indeed on RA's butt, then I'd look for some contract cancellations in March when Chautauqa and S5's contract can be cancelled. Delta might have to take on the leases on those aircraft if BB pushes for it per the contract. SkyWest is safe and ASA is pretty safe, until those performance milestones come due. If I remeber correctly have to make themselves cheaper than Compass and Mesaba to stay in the game.

Bubba, who has to make themselves cheaper to stay in the game? If what you say is true about RA, why not just tell the shareholders that? I say let the shareholders' revolt!! Down with R.A.!! Down with SOAP!! Down with high prices at the gas pump! Down with Walmarts' misleading advertising about having the lowest prices!!!

VIVA LA DELTA!!! VIVA LA COMAIR!!! VIVA LA FRANCE!!!!! (okay I got a little carried away there, but I alway heard that last line in comedies.)
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by On Autopilot
Bubba, who has to make themselves cheaper to stay in the game?
ASA has to be able to offer the cheapest operating costs in the DCI system. It's one of the operational milestones in the contract.
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Old 11-01-2009, 03:28 PM
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everyone-

I am going to file for NY state unemployment tomorrow (I was JFK based). The New York website says I need to provide a address of where I worked. Do I use the Erlanger, KY address or do I need to have an address in New York state?
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Old 11-01-2009, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotguy143
everyone-

I am going to file for NY state unemployment tomorrow (I was JFK based). The New York website says I need to provide a address of where I worked. Do I use the Erlanger, KY address or do I need to have an address in New York state?
i filed last november and used the KY address...unemployment office told me to use the official address of the company
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Old 11-01-2009, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotguy143
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I am going to file for NY state unemployment tomorrow (I was JFK based). The New York website says I need to provide a address of where I worked. Do I use the Erlanger, KY address or do I need to have an address in New York state?
File in KY through interstate claims...you get more money! 415 a week. I think NY was around 260 a week.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:06 AM
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Re-alignment bid for 33 CVG FO's (25-for the CRJ 8 fr the CR7). 33 less needed in JFK
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:49 PM
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what a joke! Daddy D can make up his mind
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