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Old 07-10-2009, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
You won't be able to get definite answers until the company and the Union come up with something. There are terms to each of the packages and you won't know what they until they are offered.

I believe that when most airlines do voluntary furloughs, the recalls are still based upon seniority. The most senior people will get recall options first. Usually you can bypass a recall one time, but after that you have to come back or give up your seniority number. If you are only 50 from the bottom I think you will most likely be furloughed even if a good number of people above you take voluntary furloughs. The only way you would have a definite recall date is if you were to take an Extended COLA if they are offered. Being 50 from the bottom I doubt you would get one of those either.

Again, NOBODY actually knows yet. You will have to wait until the packages are offered to see what you are dealing with. Good luck!
I appreciate the feedback. I was just wondering what had happened in the past. My fear is that they will mitigate 50ish furloughs which would leave me on the very bottom, which is a position I am not willing to take! I'm sorry but after 3 years at a regional I am not willing to be a short call commuter!
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:08 PM
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I'm hoping 400 people will take whatever the company offers
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8rking
I appreciate the feedback. I was just wondering what had happened in the past. My fear is that they will mitigate 50ish furloughs which would leave me on the very bottom, which is a position I am not willing to take! I'm sorry but after 3 years at a regional I am not willing to be a short call commuter!
I was at 2 years when I got furloughed (held a line in all but 1 month of that). I would not have minded being a captain on short call, but I was so glad I only had two weeks of short call as an FO before furlough.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:33 PM
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short call reserve sucks. You will never be home unless you live at base, you will get used and abused, you will spend your days off commuting, you will not make any money setting ready reserve, and it will take 25 years to upgrade. Then you have to spend another 10 years on reserve as a captain.
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
You won't be able to get definite answers until the company and the Union come up with something. There are terms to each of the packages and you won't know what they until they are offered.

I believe that when most airlines do voluntary furloughs, the recalls are still based upon seniority. The most senior people will get recall options first. Usually you can bypass a recall one time, but after that you have to come back or give up your seniority number. If you are only 50 from the bottom I think you will most likely be furloughed even if a good number of people above you take voluntary furloughs. The only way you would have a definite recall date is if you were to take an Extended COLA if they are offered. Being 50 from the bottom I doubt you would get one of those either.

Again, NOBODY actually knows yet. You will have to wait until the packages are offered to see what you are dealing with. Good luck!
The current contract says that voluntary furloughs do not get a bypass option BUT involuntary furloughs do.
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:20 PM
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For anyone still there, has there been any plane cleaning parties offered this summer?
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Old 07-11-2009, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Av8rking
I appreciate the feedback. I was just wondering what had happened in the past. My fear is that they will mitigate 50ish furloughs which would leave me on the very bottom, which is a position I am not willing to take! I'm sorry but after 3 years at a regional I am not willing to be a short call commuter!
I was a 5 year FO and I wasn't about to commute to JFK for short call so I left. I hear ya. If I can offer you any advice, it is that if you have a gut feeling of how your life will end up at Comair and you don't like how it feels, your gut is not lying to you. Tons of people say that they are making other plans, but really they are just talking. Very few actually make a backup plan. Not only do I suggest making a back up plan, but the time to execute it is now.
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Old 07-11-2009, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
I was a 5 year FO and I wasn't about to commute to JFK for short call so I left. I hear ya. If I can offer you any advice, it is that if you have a gut feeling of how your life will end up at Comair and you don't like how it feels, your gut is not lying to you. Tons of people say that they are making other plans, but really they are just talking. Very few actually make a backup plan. Not only do I suggest making a back up plan, but the time to execute it is now.
I would agree. In this environment, a back up would be a very good thing. Delta has shown hostility toward Comair, I don't think this company is going to be in existence much longer at least how we used to know it.

Anyone doing the C.F.I. thing? How goes?
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by orangeglo
For anyone still there, has there been any plane cleaning parties offered this summer?
I don't think Comair has cleaned a plane in 2-3 years. Fly it until the rivets show and try to go through lots of rain showers...that's our Comair.
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Old 07-11-2009, 07:19 AM
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Anyone doing the C.F.I. thing? How goes?
Following my CMR furlough I was able to find a full-time CFI gig that pays twice as much as I was making a CMR. The school also pays me for doing administrative work when I'm inbetween students or crummy wx days. Don't really plan on leaving the school unless a very oppurtunity presents itself, I've been making enough to put a big dent into those student loans.
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