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Old 07-09-2009, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
To Joe Underwood, in the fall of 2001 you posted on the National ALPA forum that you hoped the DAL guys had fun working at Home Depot while we lost our jobs. I hope you treat your brothers at CMR with more respect. Its called the high road champ.
My apologies. Even though I wasn't here in 2001, I'm embarrassed that someone would say something like that, especially someone from the same company I work for.
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Comair can't get SIL, but we can get plenty of S3C.

As far as Mr Underwood, I don't know him but if I run into him I'll let him know. Thank you for remembering him by name all these years and not resorting to "It was some Comair guy. Screw every last one of 'em"
I've got some good friends at CMR, jumpseated with professional crews and had a very nice CMR FO jumpseat with us the other night. I don't believe in casting an entire group because of a couple of bad seeds. That goes both ways for us as well. My point was that no one should take light on someone else's misfortunes, especially when it comes to their livelihoods. People don't forget something like that. So as I said, best of luck to all those who are or will be affected by this.
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
This is called an SIL. You agree to 55 hours a month and in return you don't fly at all. You are actually forbidden to touch the flight controls of a DAL plane for the month. Just a reduced pay vacation. They usually go very senior as its intended to do.

BTW, good luck to all of the guys getting furloughed. 1300 guys here went through that from '01-'06. Its incredibly difficult going through a furlough and all of the financial uncertainty that goes along with it.

To Joe Underwood, in the fall of 2001 you posted on the National ALPA forum that you hoped the DAL guys had fun working at Home Depot while we lost our jobs. I hope you treat your brothers at CMR with more respect. Its called the high road champ.

Mr. Underwood is still on the seniority list. He is listed as (inactive-management) which explains a lot. DAL4EVER, thank you for not holding us all responsible. I don't know this person and have never dealt with him, but that torques me off!
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:35 AM
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Mr. Underwood is still on the seniority list. He is listed as (inactive-management) which explains a lot. DAL4EVER, thank you for not holding us all responsible. I don't know this person and have never dealt with him, but that torques me off!
He is/was a sim instructor.
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
This is called an SIL. You agree to 55 hours a month and in return you don't fly at all. You are actually forbidden to touch the flight controls of a DAL plane for the month. Just a reduced pay vacation. They usually go very senior as its intended to do.
Funny how your MEC was able to negotiate a mitigation plan this lucrative, yet management at Comair was unwilling to even offer health insurance benefits to pilots who would actually work part time under one of our MEC's proposed furlough mitigation proposals last year.

Thanks for the information. It further clarifies the contempt in which DAL holds its employees over at its Comair subsidiary.

Best wishes to you guys for the impending fall schedule reduction. Sounds like furloughs are a pretty good deal over there.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:30 AM
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Not sure if this has been discussed, but saw the sign while cruising around the airport today.

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The site is located on the south side of the airport just east of the center runway (18C/36C). The hangar measures approximately 282 feet wide by 190 feet deep (62,670 sq. ft.) The hangar door measures 43 feet high by 258 feet wide. Utilities and airfield access are readily available. The building also offers 62,860 sq. ft. of offices, shop space, storage space, classrooms and a kitchen.

In case anyone wants to open, you know, a bar or something.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by irrelevant
Best wishes to you guys for the impending fall schedule reduction. Sounds like furloughs are a pretty good deal over there.
No a furlough isn't a good deal over there (just like it isn't a good deal anywhere)....the SIL's are but I'm sure they are of limited number and are for the senior people.
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:07 AM
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
This is called an SIL. You agree to 55 hours a month and in return you don't fly at all. You are actually forbidden to touch the flight controls of a DAL plane for the month. Just a reduced pay vacation. They usually go very senior as its intended to do.

BTW, good luck to all of the guys getting furloughed. 1300 guys here went through that from '01-'06. Its incredibly difficult going through a furlough and all of the financial uncertainty that goes along with it.

To Joe Underwood, in the fall of 2001 you posted on the National ALPA forum that you hoped the DAL guys had fun working at Home Depot while we lost our jobs. I hope you treat your brothers at CMR with more respect. Its called the high road champ.
I don't know who this Underwood guy is and I wasn't at Comair at that time. But I hope that Mr. Underwood finds his sorry @ss mixing paint at the Home Depot. No No, the home depot is too good. I hope its the Sherman Williams in downtown Covington.

As a furloughed Comair guy (that wasn't even there at the time that was said) I would like to apologize for that absolutely unprofessional comment. People like that is the reason this company is so screwed today. Just cause that type of person thought they were hot sh!t in their big bad EMB-120 Brasillia and refused to work with fellow ALPA brothers and sister to make this industry better. Instead.....having no college degree, living in Northern Kentucky, and being a lifer on a RJ and b!tching about your QOL because YOU were too lazy/comfortable to do something better is what we get to see/hear about all the time. (This isn't towards EVERYONE. Some of the greatest people I have flown with are the senior folks at Comair. I learned so much from them and had some of the best trips of my life. Its to that percentage that we all have flown with. You know what type I am talking about.)

I hope that if Comair resurfaces out of this downturn we have ourselves in, we find a new type of pilot attitude at the helms of our airline. Someone who is willing to work with fellow ALPA pilots in a non hostile and open atmosphere if the time comes again when we both need each other during bad times.

Once again, sorry for the comments made by that gentleman so long ago. Karma is a b!itch and I am glad to see that you distinguish between confrontational immature attitudes and the rest of us good folk at Comair.

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Old 07-10-2009, 09:28 AM
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If they will furlough 100 people this fall, can someone answer these questions for me...

-Most Junior FO DOH overall
-Most Junior CA DOH CVG/JFK
-Number of Years to hold a line in CVG as FO/CA?
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