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Old 06-03-2009, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
If you don't like the seniority system you can always quit the airlines (if you don't like it leave...there ya go). The system has been in place for a long time (not saying it doesn't sucks), but you knew about it when you got into this.
Youre missing my point. I didnt mention it but I was referring to the rest issue article that came out and everyone saying if you dont like flying tired then quit. This is where the issue is, not so much with pay. I knew what the pay was, however I didnt think the company would schedule me for 8 hours rest and expect me to fly 8 hours the next day. After all, that is not the way the FAA says it should be done. We shouldnt have to quit because a company violates the FAR's daily. And we cant quit because of the pay issue. For everyone saying, there is nothing I can do. There is plenty you can do, but its your attitude that makes them think there is nothing you can do. If everyone unites and says we have had enough, it can change. But its people like you that will never let that change. And yes, I am furloughed and I will not go back to flying. Im not sure what im going to do, but im done with part 121.
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by theaviator
Youre missing my point. I didnt mention it but I was referring to the rest issue article that came out and everyone saying if you dont like flying tired then quit. This is where the issue is, not so much with pay. I knew what the pay was, however I didnt think the company would schedule me for 8 hours rest and expect me to fly 8 hours the next day. After all, that is not the way the FAA says it should be done. We shouldnt have to quit because a company violates the FAR's daily. And we cant quit because of the pay issue. For everyone saying, there is nothing I can do. There is plenty you can do, but its your attitude that makes them think there is nothing you can do. If everyone unites and says we have had enough, it can change. But its people like you that will never let that change. And yes, I am furloughed and I will not go back to flying. Im not sure what im going to do, but im done with part 121.
If you accept an assignment that violates the FAR, then you are violating the FAR, not the company.
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by flycrj200
If you accept an assignment that violates the FAR, then you are violating the FAR, not the company.
The being scheduled for 8 hour issue is an interpretation of the FAR that is being interpreted wrong by the company. It is not a clear violation per say, however thats something that the FAA has said should not happen. But it is. And we all know 8 hours of rest isnt really 8 hours of sleep. The FAA and company are to fault. We just need to light the fire under their ass.

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Old 06-03-2009, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
What are you doing to change it?
if your directing that toward me, I have sent letters to all of my state rep's(a few I like to add).
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:40 PM
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Could you imagine if there was a Full Blown Representative mailing campaign? If EVERY Pilot emailed EACH of thier State Representatives Every Single Opportunity they had?
I bet that:

1) ATP requirements would increase Keeping the rif raf out of the industry.
2) Duty time Regulations would improve drastically.
3) The Whipsaw Bull that Regional carriers endure would END.

We have a Dem in the WhiteHouse, Dems all over Congress, and a favorable FAA administrator......

IT must be because we have ALPA that we cant seem to get any positive changes accomplished.
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TristarJS30
Boomer- You should cut and paste that in an email to Bendo. He always responds to emails and I'd love to hear his response to that one. Probably something to the effect of "I'm trying hard and I understand your situation and we need to keep our chins up."

He understands the situation, cause he signs off on it. Doesn't mean he knows anything of what its like to be unemployed in this economy with just pennies to your name. If he lost his job, hopefully for his sake he hasn't squandered the millions away yet and could be set for life. Us pilots on the other hand, are a different story.
I write to JB on a regular basis (what else is there to do out here?), his answer to all of my emails: "No recalls for a long time, maybe more in the fall...."
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fjetter
Anybody still on property know of any events that caused the VARS message about potential "slowdown" and "sick-out" rumors amongst the various employee groups?

I hope they aren't confusing PPAS with a slow-down
I'm going on month 5 of my sick-out!
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Old 06-03-2009, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
I write to JB on a regular basis (what else is there to do out here?), his answer to all of my emails: "No recalls for a long time, maybe more in the fall...."
Go on overnights with your fiance, take a hobby up, cooking class, you and your girl do a round the world trip, you are only limited by what you do, or choose not to.
Was it love at first site when you 2 first met or did you meet a few neverminds?
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Old 06-03-2009, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
I'm going on month 5 of my sick-out!
I got ya beat with an 8 month sick-out
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
What are you doing to change it?

I sit on the message boards and make thread drifting statements.
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