Comair updates?
12-13-2008, 10:26 PM
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,197
I guess I should be thankful that I have a line, or a job for that matter, but my schedule for Jan sucks A$$. No weekends off. Not one 4 day over 16 hours. Scheduled 16 minute turns. In one 4 day trip I have numerous reports before 5:30(i bid for late reports,) 3 deadheads, and at least a 4 hour sit day one and day 3, and reduced rest. Again, Praise our MEC for letting this stuff happen. It's hard to believe that I pay ALPA to work on this schedule and I get this.
I'm so done with trying to save this company anything. Look where it has gotten us. From now on, we will get there when we get there. If I am fatigued, they will know it because I will call in fatigued. Even at an outstation on the last day last leg. I am not going to track down a rampie to hook up air if I need it, I will simply run the APU. It's not my job to track people down to do there job. If they want to give me reduced rest in ATL when the van runs on a schedule, I will either show up late, or take a cab at the time I deem appropriate and I will submit reimbursement to the CP office. If they do not cooperate, I will be sure to go to the press, state reps and the public. I personally think we should put out a general announcement to the public that they should purchase tickets with care since their flight crews are being being treated like animals and anxiety levels are at an all time high. I think I should actually see a doctor because I'm not exactly sure why I allow an employer to treat me like this.
I'm so done with trying to save this company anything. Look where it has gotten us. From now on, we will get there when we get there. If I am fatigued, they will know it because I will call in fatigued. Even at an outstation on the last day last leg. I am not going to track down a rampie to hook up air if I need it, I will simply run the APU. It's not my job to track people down to do there job. If they want to give me reduced rest in ATL when the van runs on a schedule, I will either show up late, or take a cab at the time I deem appropriate and I will submit reimbursement to the CP office. If they do not cooperate, I will be sure to go to the press, state reps and the public. I personally think we should put out a general announcement to the public that they should purchase tickets with care since their flight crews are being being treated like animals and anxiety levels are at an all time high. I think I should actually see a doctor because I'm not exactly sure why I allow an employer to treat me like this.
12-14-2008, 04:32 AM
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Joined APC: May 2007
Position: Some Hotel
Posts: 1,617
OK. So once again I'm not saying its true (obviously
) but today for the third time I heard that someone in the know is telling our crew members that concourse C will only be closed temporarily until a NEW customer moves in. Who this could be I have no idea but this is the third time I've heard it and I am starting to wonder (of course this could be one of those rumors that was started by one person and has spread like crazy!) Has anyone else heard this?
) but today for the third time I heard that someone in the know is telling our crew members that concourse C will only be closed temporarily until a NEW customer moves in. Who this could be I have no idea but this is the third time I've heard it and I am starting to wonder (of course this could be one of those rumors that was started by one person and has spread like crazy!) Has anyone else heard this?
12-14-2008, 04:36 AM
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: CRJ
Posts: 211
I also like keeping the information flowing for the guys on the street.
12-14-2008, 07:11 AM
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: Knuckle-dragging line pilot
Posts: 943
As far as a merger goes, I'm not sure our MEC has the slightest clue with what's going on. They are just now actually hiring lawyers for that. If they had a clue those lawyers would have been hired months ago and we would already have a strategic plan for such a possibility. Our MEC really is like a bunch of pre-teen kids dressing up in camo and playing army or man hunt. It's too bad that they are actually doing this with our paychecks. I would be curious to hear if the Compass or Mesaba guys have a "merger relief fund," or if they have recently hired new attourneys for such a situation.
Sounds like you've got it all figured out. But what have you done to help?
12-14-2008, 07:49 AM
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 209
I guess I should be thankful that I have a line, or a job for that matter, but my schedule for Jan sucks A$$. No weekends off. Not one 4 day over 16 hours. Scheduled 16 minute turns. In one 4 day trip I have numerous reports before 5:30(i bid for late reports,) 3 deadheads, and at least a 4 hour sit day one and day 3, and reduced rest. Again, Praise our MEC for letting this stuff happen. It's hard to believe that I pay ALPA to work on this schedule and I get this.
I'm so done with trying to save this company anything. Look where it has gotten us. From now on, we will get there when we get there. If I am fatigued, they will know it because I will call in fatigued. Even at an outstation on the last day last leg. I am not going to track down a rampie to hook up air if I need it, I will simply run the APU. It's not my job to track people down to do there job. If they want to give me reduced rest in ATL when the van runs on a schedule, I will either show up late, or take a cab at the time I deem appropriate and I will submit reimbursement to the CP office. If they do not cooperate, I will be sure to go to the press, state reps and the public. I personally think we should put out a general announcement to the public that they should purchase tickets with care since their flight crews are being being treated like animals and anxiety levels are at an all time high. I think I should actually see a doctor because I'm not exactly sure why I allow an employer to treat me like this.
I'm so done with trying to save this company anything. Look where it has gotten us. From now on, we will get there when we get there. If I am fatigued, they will know it because I will call in fatigued. Even at an outstation on the last day last leg. I am not going to track down a rampie to hook up air if I need it, I will simply run the APU. It's not my job to track people down to do there job. If they want to give me reduced rest in ATL when the van runs on a schedule, I will either show up late, or take a cab at the time I deem appropriate and I will submit reimbursement to the CP office. If they do not cooperate, I will be sure to go to the press, state reps and the public. I personally think we should put out a general announcement to the public that they should purchase tickets with care since their flight crews are being being treated like animals and anxiety levels are at an all time high. I think I should actually see a doctor because I'm not exactly sure why I allow an employer to treat me like this.
12-14-2008, 09:20 AM
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,197
Granted, JC should've assessed earlier. It would help if our pilots paid the assessment too. Mesaba and DAL have sizable merger funds compared to ours, apparently their pilots saw the value in it. Compass likely doesn't need one since their MEC is the NWA MEC.
Sounds like you've got it all figured out. But what have you done to help?
Sounds like you've got it all figured out. But what have you done to help?
12-14-2008, 10:09 AM
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Pilot
Posts: 2,625
What have I done to help? I've paid my dues. That is what I pay dues for. The notion that everyone who is in a union should have to serve it is absolute crap. In this industry you really don't have a choice but to be a part of a union. The reality is every ALPA pilot pays there dues and when they see that they aren't getting what they pay for, the answer is always "What have you done to fix it?" I shouldn't have to do anything to fix it. That is what I pay you(ALPA) for. If that is the mentality then why don't all ALPA folks apply for management jobs with this company? What have you done for management lately? If you don't like the way things are run then you should apply to management and fix the issues yourself.
12-14-2008, 11:09 AM
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: Knuckle-dragging line pilot
Posts: 943
What have I done to help? I've paid my dues. That is what I pay dues for. The notion that everyone who is in a union should have to serve it is absolute crap. In this industry you really don't have a choice but to be a part of a union. The reality is every ALPA pilot pays there dues and when they see that they aren't getting what they pay for, the answer is always "What have you done to fix it?" I shouldn't have to do anything to fix it. That is what I pay you(ALPA) for. If that is the mentality then why don't all ALPA folks apply for management jobs with this company? What have you done for management lately? If you don't like the way things are run then you should apply to management and fix the issues yourself.
Basically you have three choices:
-pay your dues and complain about what a bad job the union is doing.
-pay your dues and get involved, so that the rest of us can complain about what a bad job you're doing.
-leave for a better job.
I wish just paying your dues meant a quick upgrade, super-productive trips and a fat paycheck.
You mention your crappy schedule in Jan. How senior are you? Have the massive amount of CA downgrades coming to the CR7 affected your relative seniority? Or are junior pilots getting the trips you requested out of seniority?
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