Comair updates?
11-23-2008, 07:57 PM
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Last time I got jr manned it wasn't answering the phone on Christmas morning, it was in the middle of a 2 day trip and the trip I was jr manned to didn't start for 2 days. No way out of it that I could see. If they are going to be that short over the holidays look for the fun to start EARLY. How are you going to dodge the bullet when they already have the Christmas trip added to your line before you check out on the 20th???? Forget to checkout? Won't work, manual requires you to checkout, that's been tried.
11-24-2008, 03:55 AM
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Does anyone have a copy of the that side letter agreement for fleet size? See this is the **** that the MEC needs to be fighting for! Scew fighting Emonstro, which 95% chance won't be around when we go under the holding company, or the flex line values. With a democratic administration coming in and they'll be appointing two members to the NMB, I'd start fighting to get what was promised to us by Delta. Of course they'll back pedal and use the economy as a reason for the reductions.
11-24-2008, 06:22 AM
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I believe that the language in the contract stipulates a minimum number of airframes that we have, not block hours. So even though we still have the aircraft... (some of you may have seen the Comair graveyard next to the trailers), they are not flying.. for the most part. A big oversight if you ask me.... if the contract had a min number of block hours to support the min fleet size... well, I'd be working right now.
11-24-2008, 10:56 AM
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Always something
I believe that the language in the contract stipulates a minimum number of airframes that we have, not block hours. So even though we still have the aircraft... (some of you may have seen the Comair graveyard next to the trailers), they are not flying.. for the most part. A big oversight if you ask me.... if the contract had a min number of block hours to support the min fleet size... well, I'd be working right now.
I have come to realize there is only so much a CONTRACT can guarantee you. The company is always going to do pretty much whatever they want. No matter how air tight you think you have it.
No furlough clause? No problem, we'll call it "force majeure", or get those suckers to negotiate it away later.
Min fleet size? No problem, we'll keep the planes but park 'em.
Min days off? Move soft days (multiple times)? No problem, we'll make them fly it now and grieve it later.
Insufficient staffing? No problem, junior man. Let 'em grieve it later. Never mind that the 'life events' we will force them to miss are irreplaceable.
It comes down to the quality of the organization and this one is sorely lacking.
11-24-2008, 11:05 AM
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11-24-2008, 11:07 AM
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You: 123456
Them: Just one moment.....(in the background click click click click......Oh I need to notify you of a change to your schedule. YOU'VE BEEN JR MANNED. Haha sucks to be you.
Come on, they've been through this before. If that's your plan, good luck to you.
11-24-2008, 11:10 AM
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More good news on EPIC
From EPIC:
Delta expects to reduce future domestic and international capacity in its operations as demand for seats has declined amid the global economic crisis.
On Friday, November 21, Delta filed a Form 8-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In the filing, Delta noted that demand has slowed in the fourth quarter. Domestic advance bookings are running 2 points higher year over year, reflecting capacity reductions in the domestic system. International bookings are down 4 to 5 points.
"As a result, we are evaluating our capacity plans for 2009 on both the domestic and international system and expect to reduce future capacity to better align supply with current levels of demand," the filing stated.
To see the complete filing, visit Delta.com and go to the Investor Relations section. No additional details regarding how this announcement could impact Comair are available at this time, but any additional information will be shared via EPIC and company e-mail.
Somehow I don't think "reduce future capacity to better align..." etc etc will bring good news for Comair.
Delta expects to reduce future domestic and international capacity in its operations as demand for seats has declined amid the global economic crisis.
On Friday, November 21, Delta filed a Form 8-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In the filing, Delta noted that demand has slowed in the fourth quarter. Domestic advance bookings are running 2 points higher year over year, reflecting capacity reductions in the domestic system. International bookings are down 4 to 5 points.
"As a result, we are evaluating our capacity plans for 2009 on both the domestic and international system and expect to reduce future capacity to better align supply with current levels of demand," the filing stated.
To see the complete filing, visit Delta.com and go to the Investor Relations section. No additional details regarding how this announcement could impact Comair are available at this time, but any additional information will be shared via EPIC and company e-mail.
Somehow I don't think "reduce future capacity to better align..." etc etc will bring good news for Comair.
11-24-2008, 11:12 AM
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Them: Uh, could I have your number again please.
You: 123456
Them: Just one moment.....(in the background click click click click......Oh I need to notify you of a change to your schedule. YOU'VE BEEN JR MANNED. Haha sucks to be you.
Come on, they've been through this before. If that's your plan, good luck to you.
You: 123456
Them: Just one moment.....(in the background click click click click......Oh I need to notify you of a change to your schedule. YOU'VE BEEN JR MANNED. Haha sucks to be you.
Come on, they've been through this before. If that's your plan, good luck to you.
it's your problem
11-24-2008, 11:13 AM
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Posts: 500
From EPIC:
Delta expects to reduce future domestic and international capacity in its operations as demand for seats has declined amid the global economic crisis.
On Friday, November 21, Delta filed a Form 8-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In the filing, Delta noted that demand has slowed in the fourth quarter. Domestic advance bookings are running 2 points higher year over year, reflecting capacity reductions in the domestic system. International bookings are down 4 to 5 points.
"As a result, we are evaluating our capacity plans for 2009 on both the domestic and international system and expect to reduce future capacity to better align supply with current levels of demand," the filing stated.
To see the complete filing, visit Delta.com and go to the Investor Relations section. No additional details regarding how this announcement could impact Comair are available at this time, but any additional information will be shared via EPIC and company e-mail.
Somehow I don't think "reduce future capacity to better align..." etc etc will bring good news for Comair.
Delta expects to reduce future domestic and international capacity in its operations as demand for seats has declined amid the global economic crisis.
On Friday, November 21, Delta filed a Form 8-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In the filing, Delta noted that demand has slowed in the fourth quarter. Domestic advance bookings are running 2 points higher year over year, reflecting capacity reductions in the domestic system. International bookings are down 4 to 5 points.
"As a result, we are evaluating our capacity plans for 2009 on both the domestic and international system and expect to reduce future capacity to better align supply with current levels of demand," the filing stated.
To see the complete filing, visit Delta.com and go to the Investor Relations section. No additional details regarding how this announcement could impact Comair are available at this time, but any additional information will be shared via EPIC and company e-mail.
Somehow I don't think "reduce future capacity to better align..." etc etc will bring good news for Comair.
Agreed. Especially since they posted it on epic. I've always tried to say positive when it came to Comair and bad news, however I just can't be realistically positive anymore at this place.
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