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11-20-2008, 11:56 AM

#10141

andy171773

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Originally Posted by mmaviator

i can't count that high but whats the total furloughs expecting to be?(if that 140 above is true)

last i heart was 86..but with 70 downgrades on this new displacement bid..the general rule of thumb is double the amount for furloughs.

I'm not sure if any of these captains were previously "awarded" a downgrade (a la old news)...i doubt it though.

Another interesting note..remember that rumor about comair cutting to 1000 pilots?

Everyone notice who the most senior FO is going to be? He's number 500.....

11-20-2008, 12:00 PM

#10142

Av8rking

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the original bid said 86 furloughs and 70 downgrades. looks like thats what their doing(for now anyway).

11-20-2008, 12:03 PM

#10143

Diver Driver

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Wow... I can honestly say that I really think Delta is planning on shrinking Comair to the point that it will either cease to exist or be a very small operation.

11-20-2008, 12:06 PM

#10144

Boomer

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Originally Posted by 8808

The displacement award is out!

At a quick glance...

Seniority to hold:

JFK 50 Captain - December 2000 hire (8 years)
CVG 70 Captain - November 1999 hire (9 years)
CVG 50 Captain - August 1999 hire (9 years)

CVG 70 FO - May 2005 hire (3.5 years)
CRJ 50 FO - TBD (more furloughs for Christmas!)
JFK 50 FO - Jan 2007 hire (Is that right? 2 years seniority to hold JF'nK!?!)

Two other items of note...

38 Captains are displaced to the 70 right seat.
50 FOs are displaced off the bottom of the 70 right seat.
So... If you're a 70 FO, you just got about 33% more junior.

CR7 FOs going to CVG CRJ FO - 40
JFK FOs going to CVG CRJ FO - 50
Captains going to CVG CRJ FO - 17
CVG CRJ FOs displaced in this bid - 0
Total new CVG CRJ FOs = 107
Hmm... I wonder why we need 107 additional CRJ FOs in CVG?

11-20-2008, 12:06 PM

#10145

Pilotguy143

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I believe that they are going with what they planned for now. (86 Furlough's and 70 downgrades). Any one who commutes to CVG have any advice for commuters?

11-20-2008, 12:09 PM

#10146

Boomer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilotguy143

I believe that they are going with what they planned for now. (86 Furlough's and 70 downgrades). Any one who commutes to CVG have any advice for commuters?

For starters, be nice to Chautaublic, Freedum, and Pinnacle since they have most of the CVG flying these days?

11-20-2008, 12:27 PM

#10147

Boomer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Diver Driver

Wow... I can honestly say that I really think Delta is planning on shrinking Comair to the point that it will either cease to exist or be a very small operation.

Already there, in a way. Fleetwise:

We are only 57 % of our 2005 contract size (But that was 4 CEOs ago)
We are only 60% the size of Mesa (same CEO since 1999)
We are only 50% the size of RAH (same CEO since 1999)
We are only 26% the size of SKW/ASA (same CEO since 1975)

On the other hand, we have 66% more CEOs in the last five years than the other three combined!