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Old 08-01-2007, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBaron007
I understand this is not equal to time actually flying the aircraft, but it sure is a helluva lot different than my experience flying a 172, Twin Comanche, or even Cheyenne. Even a few hours in a glass cockpit can make you a lot more familiar with it than nothing. You're right...I don't have a sh!t ton of time...I'm sorry I don't. I have been working to build that number up, and I am not trying to pad my logbook. I have no time in it that I haven't been flying the aircraft. How did you get your "real world" experience? How did you make yourself stand out in the interview? I'm interested in more suggestions if this is some sort of inadequate way to try and make myself stand out to those reading my resume. All I ask is that you don't forget that you too were once a low-time pilot with ambitions to move to an airline. Don't forget there are still some young kids out there who are trying to do their best building as much time and experience as possible so they can move on to their next step.



I made myself standout by having a resume that showed a good steady work ethic while I was building time towards a commuter job. CFI, ferry pilot, corporate flying, etc. I didn't worry about my sim time or log the 1 hour I got to sit up front in a Citation since the PIC was single pilot typed. If you want to impress interviewers today, go out and build some real world flying experience. Given all the low time pilots out there you will stand out if you've worked somewhere as a pilot after getting your ratings. I don't have a problem with low time pilots who are willing to do what it takes to move up the ladder. I do have a problem with those who want to do nothing but the bare minimum in pursuit of their "dream".
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you just don't get it. I have not once said that this is going to be in place of getting real experience or doing just the bare minimum, I am actually working on my CFI right now. If there are two CFI's with the same exact qualifications but one person has had this experience in these full motion sims, who do you think they will call? It is just one more thing to add on your resume
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudPilot57
you just don't get it. I have not once said that this is going to be in place of getting real experience or doing just the bare minimum, I am actually working on my CFI right now. If there are two CFI's with the same exact qualifications but one person has had this experience in these full motion sims, who do you think they will call? It is just one more thing to add on your resume
You don't get it...flying hours will get you where you want to be. In today's market you'll both get the call anyway.
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
For whatever its worth, I had over 400 hours of unlogged, yet documented, Level D sim experience (in three different types) from working at a 121 carrier when I was applying for flying jobs. I did not list that number with flight times on my resume, rather included it with the duties of the job.

I was always asked about it during interviews...but it never hurt me.
I hope some was in the 8
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SaltyDog
I hope some was in the 8
Lets just say I wished the 727 had an airspeed indication on the ADI like the Ocho did...and I don't think I'd want to have a stiff crosswind as a new FO on IOE.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Lets just say I wished the 727 had an airspeed indication on the ADI like the Ocho did...and I don't think I'd want to have a stiff crosswind as a new FO on IOE.
When you get back, I'll teach you like the rest of my new hire F/O friends.
I'll have you landing solidly at 25 kt direct xwnds before you hit IOE.
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by UtFlyer
Well i guess CAE and my FSDO are wrong in the interpretation of the rules regarding this one then.

If the point of all this is that some low time guy is trying to come up with filler to try and make the resume stand out its not too smart. Basiclly all of the guys with 500TT trying to get jet jobs are completely unquallified to be there in the first place. They are just at a good place in time right now and can take advantage of the opportunity.

However, the undocumented sim time and the high dive will take you farther at the interview. It really shows you above average interest in your profession. If you really want to have something at the interview try to work in the conversation how MAC on a swept wing works (there are a lot of guys with 1000's of hours of jet time that can't do it). Thats when you need them to notice you.
Alright, here's the deal. everybody is partially correct. CAE and your FSDO were correct because their 142 program in the 601 most likely was not set up or approved to specifically provide high altitude endorsements to SICs. and since you were sic you couldn't qualify under 61.31 g3iv. however if an instructor not operating under the 142 program wanted to rent the sim and provide the required instruction he could and there is no requirement to be typed in the sim, flight training device, or aircraft used. in addition your pic check would negate the need for the endorsement anyway.

Finally, i have seen numerous times that two FSDOs will give totally different and conflicting clarifications on certain rules. they're just people and not terribly standardized.
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:16 PM
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I've got L39 and B1900 time that I definitely DO NOT put on my resume. It's something trivial -- playing around a bit in a sim would be like me putting down that I'm proficient at microsoft flight sim x. I seriously doubt it would give you a leg up -- who are you trying to BS here? Don't BS your way into a company because they will catch it and cut you into bits and pieces during an interview... keep your resume neat and simple... you don't have to put everything in there, just the highlights.
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:33 PM
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I've got L39 and B1900 time that I definitely DO NOT put on my resume. It's something trivial -- playing around a bit in a sim would be like me putting down that I'm proficient at microsoft flight sim x. I seriously doubt it would give you a leg up -- who are you trying to BS here? Don't BS your way into a company because they will catch it and cut you into bits and pieces during an interview... keep your resume neat and simple... you don't have to put everything in there, just the highlights.
Definitely put it on the resume but I would just mention it in my internship description. (and not too grandiose a description) If you put it up with your flight times or over-highlight it you will betray your inexperience. (not to mention look like a tool)
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Deez340
Definitely put it on the resume but I would just mention it in my internship description. (and not too grandiose a description) If you put it up with your flight times or over-highlight it you will betray your inexperience. (not to mention look like a tool)
Fair compromise and I'd agree with that.
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