Will having my ATP help or hurt me?
05-10-2024, 07:14 PM
#41
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then no employer you want to work at considers that PIC time. That’s the way it is. Don’t put it on your application or you will have a difficult time in the interview, if they even let you get that far
05-11-2024, 04:13 AM
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Also, does the plane you fly require two crew? Or, "per the regs" as you say, can you log legitimate SIC time?
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05-11-2024, 04:38 AM
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This "PIC" time means nothing to any employer. What have you been putting on your apps as far as jet PIC vs your job descriptions? Been a quite a while, but airline apps (at least for AA, DL, UA) used to be very specific as to what to include as PIC, and it clearly excluded what you're referring to.
05-11-2024, 04:45 AM
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This "PIC" time means nothing to any employer. What have you been putting on your apps as far as jet PIC vs your job descriptions? Been a quite a while, but airline apps (at least for AA, DL, UA) used to be very specific as to what to include as PIC, and it clearly excluded what you're referring to.
05-11-2024, 05:14 AM
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This "PIC" time means nothing to any employer. What have you been putting on your apps as far as jet PIC vs your job descriptions? Been a quite a while, but airline apps (at least for AA, DL, UA) used to be very specific as to what to include as PIC, and it clearly excluded what you're referring to.
05-11-2024, 07:04 AM
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You are one special kind of stupid. I’m gonna grab yet another bag of popcorn and kick back and enjoy watching you dig and bury your head further and further into the sand.
05-11-2024, 07:17 AM
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I went back to Airline Apps and checked Delta's postings as I clearly remember what you are talking about. There used to be a disclaimer at the bottom clarifying that PIC time means ONLY that time in which you have signed for the aircraft as PIC. However, it is no longer listed there.
05-11-2024, 09:42 AM
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Also I hired a professional app review company, one that was highly recommended on here, and they said absolutely nothing about PIC time not counting towords anything.
The regs --
FAR 61.51:
"A ..commercial, or airline transport pilot may log pilot in command flight time for flights-...
(1)(i)when the pilot is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for which the pilot is rated"
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-1.../section-61.51
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