CRJ1000

Step 1: FLY the plane...don't get caught up on checklists or ATC.
Step 2: Is this bad day about to get worse:
How long is the runway? What are the weather conditions? Is the cargo compartment near the engine that had a fire indication? Am I about to pull a ValueJet (they had a FAST fire)?

If you decide to continue the approach...have the Pilot not flying run the checklist while you contine to about 1000 ft AGL...then help you with what you need.
Hope this helps.

P.S. Why did the instructor say you needed to run the check list? He may have some good information to consider...but if you had all that AND smoke in the lav now...you don't have much time...in my oppinion
What type of training is this? Is it part 121? If so...I do not believe they are allowed to give you multiple (independant) failures for a check ride to this level. Check to see if they are following the standard training program.

TonyC

While that philosophy might ease his pain over the course of the next several simulator events, it's a dangerous philosophy.


Train like you will fight, and fight like you've trained.

Any other training is counterproductive.



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Sanchez

I don't mean to be snappy, but what kind of flying do you do? I see a lot of erroneous assumptions in your statements. Anyone that's been through 121 training and has flown the line, knows that there is a world of difference between the sim and real life flying. Procedures are still the same, but the type of flying and decision making is different from a controlled environment (the sim) to real life.

flynavyj

Sounds like the military train of thought to me...which is honestly the best way to work it. But we do know that the simulator environment is different than the line environment.

If it was me, and i had gone through the same "emergency" situation(s) i too would opt to land the plane, basically meaning there's no way I'd be doing any type of delay vectors, nor would i even THINK or CONSIDER a go-around or missed approach. Delegate checklist duties to the non-flying pilot, you concentrate on flying the airplane, let them fix it, and get that thing on the ground, as the air is no place to be fighting a fire.

TonyC

I fly one of these:





(Click on the picture to see what happened to it.)


OK, here are a couple of hints:

Chris99

No offense, but I'm going to have to agree with TonyC on this one. If you don't get to practice emergency procedures in your airplane, the only time you'll get to form good habit patterns for an emergency is in the simulator. These habit patterns can save your life. If you treat the sim as a game with the instructor instead of practicing how you would act in the real situation, your company has pretty much just wasted money and training time. It's a shame if that is what your company/instructor expects of you. I'm sorry if I'm simplifying this too much because there are a lot of variables to consider.

If you are in an airplane with a fire that is spreading and will not go out, your main concern is to get that airplane on the ground as quickly as possible. How long will the airplane have the structural integrity to remain in the air? How long before the flight control cables are burned through or jammed with debris or melted plastic? How many people will die from smoke inhilation? Fly the airplane first, then worry about extra checklists if you still have time. If your only option is to run off the end of the runway going 50 knots due to a fast approach, then so be it. Your chances of survival are greater on the ground than in the air. Again, there are a lot of variables to consider, but we're paid to make tough decisions.

Sanchez

I didn't knock SOP's, in fact I support SOP's, however; sim flying where you know or can anticipate the emergency and wx conditions are one thing, now throw the same scenario in real life, with adverse wx conditions, short runways, and the element of surprise, now you have a different story. I've dealt with abnormals in both the sim and real life, and while the SOP's were the same, the decision making and reaction is different in real life.

Sanchez

So you were involve in an accident while working at fedex flying heavies? Sorry Chief, I just don't buy it.

Slice

He didn't say he was in an accident. And if he did, why not believe him?

Sanchez

I have a hard time believing people's credentials when they don't qualify their remarks in accordance to the position they claim to be in.