Airsupport

Really??? You think??? we are alpa. The company has tried their tricks to get us to sign a subpar contract, and we havent. they told us we would lose nwa flying if we didn't sign, we didn't sign. they told us we would not fly the 900's for nwa, we didn't sign. they told us we would never fly for anyone else, we didn't sign. so i think your post makes no sense since it is obvious this pilot group knows that and is fighting to make it better. while almost every regional has taken cuts to get more flying, pinnacle pilots haven't, and we still got more flying. you all could learn a lesson from us.

dang, 1800 a month? that is some pretty good gaurantee.

BoilerUP

Toot your own horn much?

You (being 9E pilots) did what you were supposed to do - hold the line and not sell yourself out. What do you want, a cookie?

Airsupport

not tooting the horn,, maybe if you read peoples previous post you would understand why i am saying what i am saying. everyone is saying 9e is undercuting people to get this flying while we are the only ones who haven't taken concessions to do it. so no, not tooting the horn to much, just educating the uneductated.

and no i dont want a cookie but thanks for offering. (it might have your cat hair in it)

BoilerUP

Are you talking about this quote?

He's not bashing and didn't say you undercut anybody - he's telling the truth.

I rode the jumpseat on Pinnacle last summer many times IND-PHL and found out that as a first-year FO at ZW I was only a few nickels short of 2nd year pay at 9E; my second year pay is off the FO chart over there. I understand your upgrade is kinda quick but that level of FO pay is wholly unacceptable to many people and I think that's all he was saying.

I support Pinnacle pilots in their negotiations and have little doubt you folks are going to remedy that whenever you happen to get a TA...but if Pinnacle (and many other regionals) offered better hourly FO compensation and work rules there probably wouldn't be a need for incentives to recruit pilots.

higney85

boilerup- As I recall you have never been nice to PCL guys on this board, is there some bad blood somewhere? Pay may not be the best, but I guarantee that whatever we get will be pretty good, and above it all there have not been concessions.

Airsupport

you forgot this one.

you can find them all over the board, yet these are people who got more flying (or got more, lost it, and then got their old contract back), by taking cuts to begin with. to lazy to quote all over the board, just saying the pinnacle bashing is unfounded, especially coming from people who did take the cuts to satisfy their sjs. i guarantee that after working here for almost 2 years and seeing this pilot group, there is no one here with sjs, and if they had it when they came here it is LONG GONE.

the mec has approved a 2 million dollar strike fund and is preparing for a potential strike. we will get what we want, or i will get unemployment and let the government pay for my 737 type.

BoilerUP

There's no bad blood at all, and I've never not been nice to Pinnacle pilots! I've thanked 9E pilots many times on APC and FI for getting me to work and back home again, and many times I've stated that I support you folks in your negotiations and will march right along side you if it comes to that. Don't take my criticism of your current CBA as a slam on your pilot group - because its not.

As I said in my previous posts, I have no doubt whatsoever the FO B-scale will be removed whenever you get a new TA.
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Now Airsupport...

I didn't see that quote on this thread and I assumed (evidently incorrectly) you were keeping in this thread. I have never said 9E pilots are _________ (insert slam de jour here) or that they would entertain concessions.

The ARW MEC twice refused to even consider a B-scale that supposedly would have allowed us to win flying for NWA in the last 18 months. TSA pilots refused a concessionary contract extension that would have scoped GoJet. ASA pilots have refused to accept a tentative agreement that would be concessionary in nature. PSA has refused at least twice to fly 900s for their current blended rate and Piedmont has refused to fly the Q400 for their current -300 rate.

More refusal is exactly what this industry needs!

Airsupport

couldn't agree more

CL65driver

Hey Airsupport, is Brad Harris still in charge of CRJ training down in MEM?

Aviatormar

what are the current multi mins at pinnacle?