Mesaba new hires
05-20-2007, 05:23 AM
#71
11 soon to be 10 days off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Left seat, wait right seat, no no left seat, nope right seat! Ummmm, I guess I am confused
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Seatlocked meaning if you are right seat in the RJ and want to bid a line in the Saab you have to wait three years to do so. If they offer you upgrade and you are in the RJ you will move to the Saab for the upgrade when you are ready, regardless of the seatlock time--this is how it has been explained to me. Mesaba long timers correct me if I am wrong.
FO--Capt(Saab)--Capt(RJ)
FO--Capt(Saab)--Capt(RJ)
05-20-2007, 05:56 AM
#72
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Position: Body at sea level; heart at 70,000+
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The following was posted by SAABTRASH on 8/30/2005. I don't know if it is current (RJ85FO Please comment) but it explains seatlock in the context of getting CRJ200s. Note the last paragraph. Considering the addition of CRJ9s, it seems like an accurate 2005 prediction for things to happen in 2007.
I should clarify the initial 3 year FO seatlock. From date of hire, you are seatlocked 3 years from bidding another FO position. For example you're hired as a CRJ FO. Your seniority number comes up in 2 years for a Saab Captain upgrade: you can bid it (because it's not an FO position and only because it's an upgrade position).
You just can't bid another FO position before 3 years. After you bid another FO position or even CA upgrade, it's a 2 year seatlock before you can bid any other position. Does this make sense? Just remember everything is seniority based. If your number can hold it, bid it!
Right now CA upgrades in the Saab are only going as junior as 4 and a half years. [2005] Assuming we get the 20 CRJs on options, I would suspect the Saab upgrade time to fall to maybe 3 to 3.5 years. We'd have to get alot more CRJs and see more attrition to get upgrades to 2 years (like the days pre 9/11).
I should clarify the initial 3 year FO seatlock. From date of hire, you are seatlocked 3 years from bidding another FO position. For example you're hired as a CRJ FO. Your seniority number comes up in 2 years for a Saab Captain upgrade: you can bid it (because it's not an FO position and only because it's an upgrade position).
You just can't bid another FO position before 3 years. After you bid another FO position or even CA upgrade, it's a 2 year seatlock before you can bid any other position. Does this make sense? Just remember everything is seniority based. If your number can hold it, bid it!
Right now CA upgrades in the Saab are only going as junior as 4 and a half years. [2005] Assuming we get the 20 CRJs on options, I would suspect the Saab upgrade time to fall to maybe 3 to 3.5 years. We'd have to get alot more CRJs and see more attrition to get upgrades to 2 years (like the days pre 9/11).
05-20-2007, 08:40 AM
#73
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Thanx guys...that makes sense.
05-20-2007, 11:20 AM
#74
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: "I love the smell of Napalm in the Morning."
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The following was posted by SAABTRASH on 8/30/2005. I don't know if it is current (RJ85FO Please comment) but it explains seatlock in the context of getting CRJ200s. Note the last paragraph. Considering the addition of CRJ9s, it seems like an accurate 2005 prediction for things to happen in 2007.
I should clarify the initial 3 year FO seatlock. From date of hire, you are seatlocked 3 years from bidding another FO position. For example you're hired as a CRJ FO. Your seniority number comes up in 2 years for a Saab Captain upgrade: you can bid it (because it's not an FO position and only because it's an upgrade position).
You just can't bid another FO position before 3 years. After you bid another FO position or even CA upgrade, it's a 2 year seatlock before you can bid any other position. Does this make sense? Just remember everything is seniority based. If your number can hold it, bid it!
Right now CA upgrades in the Saab are only going as junior as 4 and a half years. [2005] Assuming we get the 20 CRJs on options, I would suspect the Saab upgrade time to fall to maybe 3 to 3.5 years. We'd have to get alot more CRJs and see more attrition to get upgrades to 2 years (like the days pre 9/11).
I should clarify the initial 3 year FO seatlock. From date of hire, you are seatlocked 3 years from bidding another FO position. For example you're hired as a CRJ FO. Your seniority number comes up in 2 years for a Saab Captain upgrade: you can bid it (because it's not an FO position and only because it's an upgrade position).
You just can't bid another FO position before 3 years. After you bid another FO position or even CA upgrade, it's a 2 year seatlock before you can bid any other position. Does this make sense? Just remember everything is seniority based. If your number can hold it, bid it!
Right now CA upgrades in the Saab are only going as junior as 4 and a half years. [2005] Assuming we get the 20 CRJs on options, I would suspect the Saab upgrade time to fall to maybe 3 to 3.5 years. We'd have to get alot more CRJs and see more attrition to get upgrades to 2 years (like the days pre 9/11).
05-20-2007, 11:30 AM
#75
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Question!!
If you really wanted to fly for Mesaba, in earnest, you liked what you saw at the interview, and you were offered a spot at Mesaba, but did not have a class date. But, YOU DID have a class date at :
Mesa,
Go Jets,
Ex Jet & Peidmont,
all offering a class date way before July, & still wanted to fly with Mesaba, could one interpret that no class date, might equivocate to the possibility that Mesaba HR might drop you as July approaches?
What I am getting at is these are all real offers, the July thing, well, , I kind of feel that I am in a Pool because of the lack of a class date.
If you really wanted to fly for Mesaba, in earnest, you liked what you saw at the interview, and you were offered a spot at Mesaba, but did not have a class date. But, YOU DID have a class date at :
Mesa,
Go Jets,
Ex Jet & Peidmont,
all offering a class date way before July, & still wanted to fly with Mesaba, could one interpret that no class date, might equivocate to the possibility that Mesaba HR might drop you as July approaches?
What I am getting at is these are all real offers, the July thing, well, , I kind of feel that I am in a Pool because of the lack of a class date.
If nothing else, please do the rest of us already in this industry a favor... do NOT pick the first two on your list.
Best of luck with your decision.
-IHM
05-21-2007, 02:04 PM
#76
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Posts: 40
BTW - Anyone know what hotel you get put up in during training? I start on June 4 and am just trying to figure out where I'm gonna go to get a beer...I mean study...
05-21-2007, 04:03 PM
#77
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
Posts: 43
I got the call today, May 28 Class.
05-21-2007, 08:01 PM
#78
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Position: Lots and Lots of Days Off
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Could be one of several. All in the vicinity of Yankee Doodle Road/Hwy 55 in Eagan, MN. About 5 minutes from the training center.
05-21-2007, 09:30 PM
#80
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: SAAB driver in training......
Posts: 64
hey raress (or anyone else thats recently interviewed/gotten the call) how long from interview/sim, etc did it take for them to let you know. from previous posts it seems like it varies quite a bit. i interviewed on friday and am just curious. thanks.
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