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Old 08-14-2009, 07:14 PM
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i would think they merge compass and comair then sell it to RAH and you just gave all the the drama to RAH.


along with all the 200's and top heavy regional
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Old 08-15-2009, 07:00 AM
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This is all interesting speculations and I have no idea how this is going to end up. I guess based on the above posts, there are 3 possible ways things could turn out:
One, DAL builds up Compass and divest it to third party investors like RAH or Skywest or better yet another Holding Coporation. I do not think DAL wants Skywest or RAH to get any bigger than it already is but money talks to these DAL beancounters as they only seem to care about short term profits. Two, Mesaba, Compass is merged by DAL under the same Holding Corporation. I left out Comair in this equation because I do not think DAL wants Comair in this mix for various reasons. Three, Comair is sold off or continue to get thrashed by reducing their fleet, everything from CRJ200s to CRJ7s and CRJ9s. To this I'd like to add the Fourth scenario, and that is gradually all Mesaba Saabs are parked and replaced with CRJ9s and CRJ7s from either ASA or Comair. I am only throwing this out because I have now heard this from 3 different sources.

Compass would make an attractive buy for Skywest or RAH but the big drawback for them would be the Compass Flowback agreement with DAL which could create additional training costs. However, to a third party Holding Coporation interested in buying Compass, they may not necessarily care about the Flowback agreement. There's also a possibility Skywest or RAH may try to buy Compass with the provision that in case DAL furloughs and sends them to Compass after the sale, DAL would agree to pay for the training costs to the buyer.
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Old 08-15-2009, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed
This is all interesting speculations and I have no idea how this is going to end up. I guess based on the above posts, there are 3 possible ways things could turn out:
One, DAL builds up Compass and divest it to third party investors like RAH or Skywest or better yet another Holding Coporation. I do not think DAL wants Skywest or RAH to get any bigger than it already is but money talks to these DAL beancounters as they only seem to care about short term profits. Two, Mesaba, Compass is merged by DAL under the same Holding Corporation. I left out Comair in this equation because I do not think DAL wants Comair in this mix for various reasons. Three, Comair is sold off or continue to get thrashed by reducing their fleet, everything from CRJ200s to CRJ7s and CRJ9s. To this I'd like to add the Fourth scenario, and that is gradually all Mesaba Saabs are parked and replaced with CRJ9s and CRJ7s from either ASA or Comair. I am only throwing this out because I have now heard this from 3 different sources.

Compass would make an attractive buy for Skywest or RAH but the big drawback for them would be the Compass Flowback agreement with DAL which could create additional training costs. However, to a third party Holding Coporation interested in buying Compass, they may not necessarily care about the Flowback agreement. There's also a possibility Skywest or RAH may try to buy Compass with the provision that in case DAL furloughs and sends them to Compass after the sale, DAL would agree to pay for the training costs to the buyer.
I don't think you'll see Delta sell a wholly owned to another regional. RA is having having to deal with the devil now because of that fact. SkyWest got a good solid long term contract with the purchase of ASA. They've learned their lesson now. If there is any movement it will be merger, spinoff or sell off to a non-airline corporate entity.
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by H46Bubba
I don't think you'll see Delta sell a wholly owned to another regional. RA is having having to deal with the devil now because of that fact. SkyWest got a good solid long term contract with the purchase of ASA. They've learned their lesson now. If there is any movement it will be merger, spinoff or sell off to a non-airline corporate entity.
I have to agree with you on that. Like I said I do not think DAL wants to make Skywest or RAH any bigger than it is now so if the sell off occurs, it will most likely be to another third party Holding Corporation
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I can tell you one thing about Mesaba. The saabs are all going away in the not so distant future. Word is some company in asia wants them and are willing to pay X amount for the leases to Saab. Offered Delta to match that lease price and they declined. Saabs all go away then as our leases expire 2010. Apparently Delta had no plans to get rid of the saabs but just made the decision when faced with the fact. FWIW.
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by p1kraft
I can tell you one thing about Mesaba. The saabs are all going away in the not so distant future. Word is some company in asia wants them and are willing to pay X amount for the leases to Saab. Offered Delta to match that lease price and they declined. Saabs all go away then as our leases expire 2010. Apparently Delta had no plans to get rid of the saabs but just made the decision when faced with the fact. FWIW.
This may be true, but what happens if/when gas goes back above 150/barrel? I know that tprops were a saving grace to regionals/mainline when fuel shot up just because of efficiency. IMHO I see tprops making a comeback in the future.

Also Saabs are still being sent to the paint shop. It isn't cheap to paint those things. I don't see why they would paint them especially if they're only going to be around for another year.

I look at Delta like Brett Favre, just when you think you have it figured out...BOOM! You get what you least expected, so we'll just wait and see.
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:19 PM
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Anyone know whats up with crewtrac? I haven't been able to get into it for at least 2 hrs. now.
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
Anyone know whats up with crewtrac? I haven't been able to get into it for at least 2 hrs. now.
sept schedules are out?
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Old 08-27-2009, 06:50 PM
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Everyone is admiring their last decent schedule before the hell of PBS fully takes over next month? At least now those that were complaining that it was taking too long to get PBS because they were getting 19 days off in the practice bids can enjoy what happens with the " live" version with so many less real bidders and now they can contemplate why instead of their usual 15 days off as a paper bidder they are looking at 13 days off with the "new and improved bidding" instead of the 19 in the practice rounds.
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Old 08-28-2009, 12:56 PM
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Did you kids see they came out with a new voluntary furlough notice effective Nov. 1. Looks like they're looking for 55 takers across all aircraft...
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