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06-01-2009, 05:56 PM
#5841
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Don't everyone get their panties in a wad now! Delta could very well have bigger and better plans for our Saabs. That could have been a soft way of letting them down instead of saying oops sorry we've decided to put those aircraft somewhere else that will be more profitable. Because then they would be asking Delta why, who , where? They are on a "need to know basis and they don't need to know"!
Just my 2 cents, carry on.
Just my 2 cents, carry on.
I wouldn't be freaking out too much about gas either. Nearly every airline Has been taking Huge fuel hedge losses because they guessed wrong. Unless it goes back to past summer rates. A lot of the fuel inefficiency everyone talks about on 200's is opportunity cost against 7/900's. If you put a 200 in the right market at the right distance it will make money. You could put a DC-8 on the right market and make money when you charge the right price! Plus your not going to see Delta ditch all these 200 markets and let everyother airline pick up the business. Just not gonna happen to the extent everyone thinks/hopes. Everyday Delta is showing to be Northwest in a new uniform. They will bleed til they can't any more Northwest is ruthless with protecting routes.
06-01-2009, 06:00 PM
#5842
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: FIRE ALPA
Posts: 3,088
Gonna say this post seems most likely. I don't understand why they would be pulling Saabs when they can make a lot of money on them. Unless the Saab just isn't classy enough for Delta or they have ran out of good close cities to the hubs that will not make money. EAS routes don't necessarily mean guaranteed money. If these routes are expected to be full the guaranteed money will be low. No sense in overloading the server over speculation from the Harrison Daily Times. When New York Times reports, it's time freak out!
I wouldn't be freaking out too much about gas either. Nearly every airline Has been taking Huge fuel hedge losses because they guessed wrong. Unless it goes back to past summer rates. A lot of the fuel inefficiency everyone talks about on 200's is opportunity cost against 7/900's. If you put a 200 in the right market at the right distance it will make money. You could put a DC-8 on the right market and make money when you charge the right price!
I wouldn't be freaking out too much about gas either. Nearly every airline Has been taking Huge fuel hedge losses because they guessed wrong. Unless it goes back to past summer rates. A lot of the fuel inefficiency everyone talks about on 200's is opportunity cost against 7/900's. If you put a 200 in the right market at the right distance it will make money. You could put a DC-8 on the right market and make money when you charge the right price!
Impossible, nobody reads that garbage rag...
Good luck finding anyone willing to pay that much for a seat on a DC-8.
06-03-2009, 10:33 AM
#5844
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Round Two
Posts: 374
Don't everyone get their panties in a wad now! Delta could very well have bigger and better plans for our Saabs. That could have been a soft way of letting them down instead of saying oops sorry we've decided to put those aircraft somewhere else that will be more profitable. Because then they would be asking Delta why, who , where? They are on a "need to know basis and they don't need to know"!
Just my 2 cents, carry on.
Just my 2 cents, carry on.
. This sucks we're losing ten starting in Sept. I better start looking for work.
06-03-2009, 11:30 AM
#5845
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Set Hundo
Posts: 479
Delta's plan for our Saabs:
Send 'em back to Sweden, 10 total, 2 per month starting in September.
Gee, Delta, I'd say thanks, but I'd be lying.
Send 'em back to Sweden, 10 total, 2 per month starting in September.
Gee, Delta, I'd say thanks, but I'd be lying.
06-03-2009, 11:49 AM
#5847
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: FIRE ALPA
Posts: 3,088
Well let's see.... We were supposedly already about 100 overstaffed. 10 planes is about 100 more overstaffed. I'd say if you have a seniority number higher than 900 it's time to at least start looking for a new job.
So yes I guess it does mean furloughs.
So yes I guess it does mean furloughs.
06-03-2009, 11:54 AM
#5848
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 229
when delta furloughs in the fall you will be seeing some more pilots at mesaba
06-03-2009, 11:54 AM
#5849
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Posts: 52
As of now XJ is already overstaffed by 80-100 pilots, 10 "returned" Saabs is about another 100 pilots. Finally, with PBS starting in the fall add another 30-50 pilots.
So my "best guess" is anywhere from 210 pilots to 250 pilots from the bottom of the list will be collecting $975 dollars take home pay per month from unemployment (depending on your state). I will be one of them...
However, I could be a little pessimistic; but I am preparing.
So my "best guess" is anywhere from 210 pilots to 250 pilots from the bottom of the list will be collecting $975 dollars take home pay per month from unemployment (depending on your state). I will be one of them...
However, I could be a little pessimistic; but I am preparing.
06-03-2009, 12:20 PM
#5850
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: B-737 First officer
Posts: 246
Man this F'n sucks......
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