Mesaba new hires
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Well based on today's bid packs, 900 Captains are probably staffed properly per known airplanes. Saab Captains overstaffed for sure. FO's seem close to where they need to be. The CRJ200 may be a bit overstaffed but not enough to justify displacements. Overall there are 2 big "?" How many of the MSP 900 phantom instructors get sent back to the line. Because that will send rippling displacements throughout the company. Second how many Saab captains get displaced to FO and is that enough to cause furloughs....
This is all based on the FEB bid packages....nothing more.
This is all based on the FEB bid packages....nothing more.
I don't think Mesaba will push any instructors back to the line, besides what they did a few months ago... they really didn't convert any more line pilots to sim instructors for the a/c that were supposed to show up.
You are correct about the Saab captains... I highly doubt that anyone will "withdraw" from class and return to their previous position as management has suggested. If you voluntarily go back you lose all the rights you would attain if you were to be displaced.
So I think the first displacement you will see will be for Saab CA's and 200 FO's. Look for that to come out sometime next week (The deadline for voluntarily dropping out of Saab CA training was yesterday and the decision on who is included in this program is supposed to come out today.
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People that become FTI's (Full time instructors) Still get to bid a/c and seats per their seniority, but because they are not actually flying a line, and therefore not bidding a line, they are classified as "Phantoms". I.e. they hold a spot on the seniority list, and their pay is in accordance with that seniority, but they can continue to teach on the a/c their currently teaching.
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The same guys that call the -900 "the Nine" have decided to nickname the airplane "phantom." It brings back their memories of flying in 'nam. oh wait they weren't born until 15 years after it ended...but the chicks at the bars won't realize that.
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Considering DAL is reducing capacity in '09 I really don't think the mainline fleet is going to grow. So the 120 76 seat a/c scope in the JPWA will prevent any of that.
Current(as of this spring) 76 seat operators for DAL
ASA - 10*
Commair - 13
Skywest - 19
Shuttle(RAH) - 8
Mesaba - 41*
Compass - 36
Pinnacle - 10
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17 need to go away or have seats pulled.
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Current(as of this spring) 76 seat operators for DAL
ASA - 10*
Commair - 13
Skywest - 19
Shuttle(RAH) - 8
Mesaba - 41*
Compass - 36
Pinnacle - 10
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137
17 need to go away or have seats pulled.
Nothing like useless rumors fabricated by 900 fo's
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This info was quoted from several different aviation articles, not a "useless rumor." Your negativity stifles any thread you participate in. Get over yourself.
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I am in agreement with Ftrooppilot. Merging Comair with Mesaba seems unlikely at best.
Looking at Feb bid, an airline would not be adding more destinations to its route structure when it's going to shrink. So, no is my answer to those who ask whether XJ will furlough in 2009. XJ management type told us that 5 being initially based out of SLC is a beginning of further growth into the West by XJ. Take it for what it's worth.
Looking at Feb bid, an airline would not be adding more destinations to its route structure when it's going to shrink. So, no is my answer to those who ask whether XJ will furlough in 2009. XJ management type told us that 5 being initially based out of SLC is a beginning of further growth into the West by XJ. Take it for what it's worth.
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I am in agreement with Ftrooppilot. Merging Comair with Mesaba seems unlikely at best.
Looking at Feb bid, an airline would not be adding more destinations to its route structure when it's going to shrink. So, no is my answer to those who ask whether XJ will furlough in 2009. XJ management type told us that 5 being initially based out of SLC is a beginning of further growth into the West by XJ. Take it for what it's worth.
Looking at Feb bid, an airline would not be adding more destinations to its route structure when it's going to shrink. So, no is my answer to those who ask whether XJ will furlough in 2009. XJ management type told us that 5 being initially based out of SLC is a beginning of further growth into the West by XJ. Take it for what it's worth.
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Well, post the article then. Just because a company owns options on new a/c does not mean they can violate DAL scope. There is quite a bit of room for growth in DCI for a/c up to 70 seats but not 71 to 76. I guess it depends on if DAL wants to put CRJ-900s or E-175s in service with only 70 seats and then reconfigure them when scope allows. I don't think 405PA was being negative, I think that more DCI aircraft is a negative.
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The base manager said XJ also might get more Saabs for ATL flying. I hope you get your class date soon too. I feel bad for those of you who got your class date canceled. The upside is you will be in the pool and will be the first ones to be hired on the next round since you already passed the interview. If I had to take an educated guess, it will be in few months, according to a base manager.
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Well, post the article then. Just because a company owns options on new a/c does not mean they can violate DAL scope. There is quite a bit of room for growth in DCI for a/c up to 70 seats but not 71 to 76. I guess it depends on if DAL wants to put CRJ-900s or E-175s in service with only 70 seats and then reconfigure them when scope allows. I don't think 405PA was being negative, I think that more DCI aircraft is a negative.
Never said getting more aircraft at regionals is a good thing. I was responding to someone who asked me if there were more aircraft out there in the DAL system for bidding.
I am one of the many who wants to get hired by a major. I certainly do not plan on being a regional lifer. I do hope DAL and other majors will expand their mainline fleet so there will be hiring instead of furloughing but right now it seems unlikely majors will be hiring anytime soon.
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