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12-03-2008, 01:28 PM

#5051

wmupilot85

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Originally Posted by TheSultanofScud

Well, back in October, I heard they hired a flight instructor with 8 hours ME into a 900 class. Don't know anything else about the applicant or his/her connections. Heard all this from a DPE for the flight school who is also a senior captain at a legacy carrier.

Apply and you might not get the interview...don't apply and you definitely won't get the interview.

That being said, my buddy recently applied with 500TT 20ME with a Commercial ME, SE, Instrument...was also finishing a degree. He got turned down for an interview. I guess it's a tossup.

Thats what I hear. Some low times get interviews, some don't. I'd rather take my chances than not even try at all.

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Originally Posted by Avroman

OK first off, I didn't know the Stallions were still around. Good to hear. Now your chances are slim if you apply, they are zero if you don't...
There are a lot of us from WMU here (including the chief pilot of line flying) That is a favorably looked upon school by the powers that be here. As far as your second question I have no idea what you are talking about but I'm guessing that part of the app is screwed up. I'd just put down what matches the answers available... Good luck.

Were still around and kicking it good here. Lets hope that WMU name does something for the money I paid. lol

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Originally Posted by CloudPilot57

For what it is worth, I just had a buddy apply and get the interview with 260 total time with 40 multi. However, in the end he was turned down for having too low of time... Try and see what happens!

Thats what I'm gonna do. The worst that happens is nothing at all. Every seems to tell me that I have an awsome personality, they love to fly with me, and I am good at selling myself at being who I am really am, and not someone who is fake for others. So we will see how it all goes.

12-03-2008, 01:51 PM

#5052

Max Glide

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Originally Posted by bradeku1008

Any Mesaba pilots want to walk a cover letter and a resume in for a fellow pilot?

If I knew you, I would!

12-03-2008, 01:54 PM

#5053

Max Glide

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Originally Posted by wmupilot85

I am ashamed to say it, but I am one of the low times guys who will be applying here very shortly. I am currently just over 230 TT, 56 ME, and just about 100 instrument. I should have just a tad over 300 TT when I apply in January. I know it’s a long shot, but I am going to be taking the chance. I am going to be a Western Michigan University graduate with a 3.7-3.8 GPA, assistant captain of a college approved hockey team, JET course for the CRJ-200, and a slew of other good activities for my resume. I am currently a CMEL/CSEL/Instrument, working on CFI followed by CFII and MEI. I am in no hurry as no one locally is hiring flight instructors, but I still want to gain the knowledge and experiance to hold a flight instructor rating.

I am curious to see how I fair up. I am looking to stay with the company long term, which I feel is what they may be looking for right now. With that being said, I have a few questions regarding the application before I fill it out next month. Under the questions, number 8 asks “Do you have a degree in Aeronautical science.” I am a current aviation flight science major at WMU, but I don’t want to get wording confused, as some degrees are listed as aeronautical and not aviation. For this, would my degree be considered a yes or no?

My second question is with regards to question 20, which states “Which ME-ATP Certificate do you currently possess?” Now I read the question as which ATP certificate do you possess, but the answers are asking what commercial certificate you possess. Could anyone shed some light on that one also?

Thanks much too. I will be sure to post an update when I do apply, and the status of the application also.

Why are you ashamed?

Be confident in your ability to go through training. People with that much time have successfully interviewed, selected, trained, and flew 747s as their 'First' part 121 airliner.

Good Luck!

12-03-2008, 02:27 PM

#5054

bradeku1008

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Originally Posted by Max Glide

If I knew you, I would!

Well, next time you are in Ohio the beers are on me.

12-03-2008, 02:58 PM

#5055

wmupilot85

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Originally Posted by Max Glide

I'm confident, but I know that some of the higher time, 121 guys on here really dislike it if a low time pilot gets a job over them. I was confident through my entire training, busting my butt to fly as much as I could, and to learn as much as I could. My 2nd time doing slow flight, I was only +-20 feet. Aviation has always been a passion of mine, and I know that some say time = experiance, but I would say that I am far more experianced than what my time shows.

12-03-2008, 04:48 PM

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mitchellinmn

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I sent in an online application a couple of weeks ago and got the "thanks but no thanks" return email from HR. I am low time (360, 60 ME) but nothing current. I have not flown in a year and was honest about it on my cover letter. I told them I was confident that if selected I could get through the training, but if they stuck my in the sim at an interview they would not be impressed. I am of the age, where if they hired me, I would have no illusions of going on to a major, but would be happy to just upgrade to captian there someday and fly until forced retirement. It would be perfect for me as I live in MSP and would hopefully not have to screw around with crash pads and jump seats all over the place. I would have to take about a 50K reduction in pay and the resulting divorce lawyer bills, but I would still seriously consider it. Oh well, I will keep bugging them.

12-03-2008, 05:00 PM

#5057

IFLY22

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Originally Posted by wmupilot85

My 2nd time doing slow flight, I was only +-20 feet.

good deal man and i wish you the best. but please dont ever repeat that. there are too many mav's out there already..

12-03-2008, 06:39 PM

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wmupilot85

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Originally Posted by IFLY22

good deal man and i wish you the best. but please dont ever repeat that. there are too many mav's out there already..

Word, I know. I never really brag about what I do flying wise, as there is always someone who knows more, and is better than I am. But I have a good ability to adapt to changes and get a feel for things fast. As with aviation, there is ALWAYS something to learn, no matter who you are, how long you have been doing it, and however much you have studied/read.

I think a good ability of mine is my attention to detail when it comes to things. Like the wording of those 2 questions on the application.

12-03-2008, 07:38 PM

#5059

Oldguy FO

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mitchellinmn

I can't believe you received a "thanks but no thanks letter." I think the red flag was that you told them

1. Not current
2. They would not be impressed with your sim eval.

12-03-2008, 07:39 PM

#5060

evh347

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Originally Posted by wmupilot85

....and I know that some say time = experiance, but I would say that I am far more experianced than what my time shows.

First of all, you should be able to spell "experience" if your going to actually cite it on a resume. Sure, I may sound like the spell check police here, but you did it twice in the same sentence. My biggest pet peave is someone who can't spell....I consider it a turnoff, especially on a resume or cover letter.

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Originally Posted by mitchellinmn

Let me get this straight....you admit to a potential employer that you are inexperienced ("low time") and you haven't "flown in over a year"....AND you believe you could still get through training (a pretty thin guarantee alone), but if they put you in a simulator they "wouldn't be impressed"??? Do you think the fact that you intend to stay at Mesaba for the rest of your career because you're too old to consider the "illusion" of working for a major is a reason they should consider you? Are you serious? Honestly, you should stick with the job that pays 50K and save your marriage in the process. One of the first questions they'll ask you about in the interview is how do you think you'll handle the low pay and hours away from home....HINT: you'd better have a better answer than just that you would "still seriously consider it".

While the truth it may be and judging just on what you posted here....no one is going to seriously consider you for admitting it like you say you did in your cover letter. Understand? No one. All I'm saying is that your honesty did you no favors. Just a friendly observation, but it's sad that so many people have no idea on how to sell themselves to potential employers. Just my opinion, but some of you need to start looking inward as to the reason that you're not getting the call.

I'm not trying to bust your balls....just trying to offer advice to you. I figure it's acceptable or you wouldn't post here. Best of luck.