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#4291
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 22
I know alot of guys on the Saab who where in the 12/28 and 01/14 class as FOs have been on Straight reserve since they got on the line in April and May. The only month they didnt have reserve was the month of their green line. 12/28 had 6 DTW and 6 MEM initially, 1/14 had 4 MEM initially because I know a few may have changed bases.
#4292
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 691
How often are you shooting approaches with visibility less than 1 mile? Surely these last six summer months you haven't had so many people tell you this that you are burnt out on hearing it. People have to start somewhere, we all aren't born with all these hours of experience.
#4293
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 736
I know alot of guys on the Saab who where in the 12/28 and 01/14 class as FOs have been on Straight reserve since they got on the line in April and May. The only month they didnt have reserve was the month of their green line. 12/28 had 6 DTW and 6 MEM initially, 1/14 had 4 MEM initially because I know a few may have changed bases.
#4294
I had my students flying around in actual and shooting real approaches for a couple of hours each when they were still private students, let alone instrument ones (not to be proficient but just for the experience). Thats they way I was trained, and it made sense to me.
I can't speak for how it works at big flight schools or colleges, but I've heard more than one captain gripe about the lack of actual instrument experience by some FOs.
#4295
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 593
I think his point is that any pilot should have flown an approach to actual minimums before they came to Mesaba.
I had my students flying around in actual and shooting real approaches for a couple of hours each when they were still private students, let alone instrument ones (not to be proficient but just for the experience). Thats they way I was trained, and it made sense to me.
I can't speak for how it works at big flight schools or colleges, but I've heard more than one captain gripe about the lack of actual instrument experience by some FOs.
I had my students flying around in actual and shooting real approaches for a couple of hours each when they were still private students, let alone instrument ones (not to be proficient but just for the experience). Thats they way I was trained, and it made sense to me.
I can't speak for how it works at big flight schools or colleges, but I've heard more than one captain gripe about the lack of actual instrument experience by some FOs.
#4296
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: 320
Posts: 709
I have heard captains say,"how do i program the fms!!!" wow how can they fly if they dont know that...... That is sarcasm for those about to chew me out. My point is people forget even the stupid little things, it happens at least they were smart enough to ask the question. I am sick of hearing how everyone is better then everyone else. IT IS WHAT IT IS SO DEAL WITH IT!!!!!
#4297
I have heard captains say,"how do i program the fms!!!" wow how can they fly if they dont know that...... That is sarcasm for those about to chew me out. My point is people forget even the stupid little things, it happens at least they were smart enough to ask the question. I am sick of hearing how everyone is better then everyone else. IT IS WHAT IT IS SO DEAL WITH IT!!!!!
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
#4299
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 691
I have heard captains say,"how do i program the fms!!!" wow how can they fly if they dont know that...... That is sarcasm for those about to chew me out. My point is people forget even the stupid little things, it happens at least they were smart enough to ask the question. I am sick of hearing how everyone is better then everyone else. IT IS WHAT IT IS SO DEAL WITH IT!!!!!
Everyone went through the training, regardless of your experience before Mesaba, I think everyone has seen what it is like to shoot approaches to minimums.
#4300
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Pt. 91 BE-350 SIC
Posts: 40
Just because you want something doesn't mean you deserve it. I want a million dollars. The whole point is what you're willing to put in determines your character. I think we are plenty stocked up on people who don't have the desire to be a pilot, but they would rather put on the uniform and call themselves an airline pilot.
I'm burned out from people saying "wow I have never shot an approach this low" when the visibility is <1 mi. I'm burned out on people with a 1,000 hours talkling about building time for the upgrade. You are not here to build time. You are here as a required crew member that is your job. I'm not bitter about what I had to do to get where I am I enjoyed all the jobs I had before working in 121(I definatly didn't instruct for a decade). I'm just sick of people who think putting on the uniform and collecting min guarantee is the end all.
Enjoy where you are at when the time is right the right place will find you.
I'm burned out from people saying "wow I have never shot an approach this low" when the visibility is <1 mi. I'm burned out on people with a 1,000 hours talkling about building time for the upgrade. You are not here to build time. You are here as a required crew member that is your job. I'm not bitter about what I had to do to get where I am I enjoyed all the jobs I had before working in 121(I definatly didn't instruct for a decade). I'm just sick of people who think putting on the uniform and collecting min guarantee is the end all.
Enjoy where you are at when the time is right the right place will find you.
HAHAHA what a joke. By you saying this, I take it you thew your logbook in the trash once you got to your current position.
Be careful about bashing people who are excited to advance in their careers. Just because someone is enthusiastic about moving on to greener pastures in the future doesn't mean they are any less committed to maintaining the brown, dormant grass that they are grazing in now....hopefully you follow the analogy.
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