jayray2

How much more staffing do they need? They still have 300 listed on the employment page and still have more 200's and 900's coming. 15 new hires a month this year would still only be 135 pilots. It would make sense that once the economic and oil situation is worked out, hiring will continue well into next year. This is just looking at the 900's still coming (18 remaining correct??) and the 300 hundred they have listed. Even if they just hire half that amount, that it still quite a bit of hiring. And is the flow through thing still going to happen?

p1kraft

nwa delta merger = bye bye flow through

WIPilot

My guess is that we have about 90 new hires to go, almost all to the CRJ-900, after the April 7 class strictly based on getting our 49 saabs/36 900's/17 200's. (I got the numbers by taking our current staffing and using a staffing of 10 crew members per aircraft)

So, it will be more than 90 in my opinion but anything above 90 will be due to attrition so I have no basis to make a estimate on those.

Any of the more senior folks care to critique my numbers/thoughts?

RJ85FO

The 200 and the Saab are essentially fully staffed. The 900 is 75% there. (We are staffed well ahead of the deliveries, so aircraft remaining is not a good guage of how much hiring will be done.) The 300 listed on the staffing page is just a place holder, it is not reflective of the actual number that will be hired. Our seniority list is about 1050 strong now. When hiring started in April 2007, the list was less than 600. When we are done, the list should be in the 1200 range for the number of aircraft we will operate. Hiring then will slow to replace only those leaving.

Yes, upgrades were lightning quick just 6 months ago, movement between bases was fast, and seniority was building. Coming in now, you will not see a quick upgrade or a rise up the seniority list anywhere near as fast.

Just putting out my two cents. Don't rememeber the facts of the last 6 months and come to Mesaba with the same expectations. The landscape HAS changed.

flythemuppets

I hate to spread the rumor mill but with so little positive circulating on the current state of aviation, why not ask around see what people have heard and take up a couple of threads. I certainly don't mean to come across as that guy nor spread any ill will by looking or not looking at facts.

flythemuppets

That all being said, any forecast to see all the last saab classes done with IOE/Green line? I noticed there were only 3 green lines on the April bid and am wondering what we can expect to see over the next couple of months.

WIPilot

We're still so overstaffed in the saab I am guessing they have no incentive to rush the rest of the saab guys through.

Farva

Why i do agree hiring is slowing down I think we are still going strong. The levels are ranging from 1300 to 1400 still. I was overhearing hiring stuff at HQ and though we are starting to slow down we are still needing to fill the void. For the most part 10 crews per aircraft seems to be the way they shoot. Who knows what the future holds but for now things are good. I know they have class dates all the way into the summer.

submachXJ

76' TA brick red lots of dust now but had alot of time in high school and dropped a 455 bored 468 in it supped up and 4 speed.
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Mesaba03

When will there be some movement for Saab Fo's in MSP? By this summer do you guys think?