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02-20-2008, 08:40 AM
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Initially, I don't think there will be any impact on Mesaba or Compass. Pinnacle, maybe. There will be major impacts on regionals not owned by NWA or DAL such as CHQ, RAH, Skywest, etc. NWA/DAL will consolidate regional flying and balance it out between Mesaba, Compass, and possibly Pinnacle. If SLC is kept as a hub, Mesaba and Compass will more and more take over the flying into and out SLC and flying done by Skywest and others not owned by NWA and DAL will be reduced. People talk about ironclad contracts between Skywest and DAL but there is no such thing as an ironclad contract. Merger happens, all bets are off. New entity is legally positioned to accept the existing contract or renegotiate almost all provisions of the existing contract.
Merger will have a major negative impact on regionals not owned by DAL or NWA but may have a positive impact on regionals such as Mesaba.
Merger will have a major negative impact on regionals not owned by DAL or NWA but may have a positive impact on regionals such as Mesaba.
There are so many variables, including the all mighty dollar, that will persuade management to cut costs, cut jobs, or give regional flying to the lowest bidder.
But to be optimistic, no jobs will be lost and maybe we will see a small bump in pay
02-20-2008, 08:46 AM
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that is very optimistic, you mention pinnacle (not wholly owned) as a beneficiary to this, however you did not mention comair, a wholly owned entity of delta.
There are so many variables, including the all mighty dollar, that will persuade management to cut costs, cut jobs, or give regional flying to the lowest bidder.
But to be optimistic, no jobs will be lost and maybe we will see a small bump in pay
There are so many variables, including the all mighty dollar, that will persuade management to cut costs, cut jobs, or give regional flying to the lowest bidder.
But to be optimistic, no jobs will be lost and maybe we will see a small bump in pay
02-20-2008, 09:14 AM
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so many variables, it is like picking winning lottery numbers
02-20-2008, 09:27 AM
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There are a lot of variables but it is quite not as bad as that. Actually, I think based on current picture it is possible to project what is likely to happen with a fairly good accuracy. If NWA/DAL merges, it will maintain regionals owned by NWA and DAL based what it can do for them domestically. Regionals it cannot control with a reasonable amount of certainty or the ones it feels is a potential liability, it will try to disentangle itself from.
02-20-2008, 10:47 AM
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I would take SLC in a heart beat. These winters suck.
02-20-2008, 11:02 AM
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Initially, I don't think there will be any impact on Mesaba or Compass. Pinnacle, maybe. There will be major impacts on regionals not owned by NWA or DAL such as CHQ, RAH, Skywest, etc. NWA/DAL will consolidate regional flying and balance it out between Mesaba, Compass, and possibly Pinnacle. If SLC is kept as a hub, Mesaba and Compass will more and more take over the flying into and out SLC and flying done by Skywest and others not owned by NWA and DAL will be reduced. People talk about ironclad contracts between Skywest and DAL but there is no such thing as an ironclad contract. Merger happens, all bets are off. New entity is legally positioned to accept the existing contract or renegotiate almost all provisions of the existing contract.
That being said, I'd predict you're right
...nailed it.
02-20-2008, 12:52 PM
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could not agree more, i ran across a post in the comair updates thread saying that when DAL/NWA merge that comair, compass and mesaba will combine seniority lists, except compass and mesaba will just be added to the bottom of theirs. So everyone predicts the best future for themselves!
02-20-2008, 01:22 PM
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could not agree more, i ran across a post in the comair updates thread saying that when DAL/NWA merge that comair, compass and mesaba will combine seniority lists, except compass and mesaba will just be added to the bottom of theirs. So everyone predicts the best future for themselves!
All I can say is there will be a major reconsolidation of regionals not owned by NWA/DAL if they are going to survive the post merger.
For the next several years anyway, Mesaba would be a good place to be in.
02-20-2008, 01:26 PM
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Initially, I don't think there will be any impact on Mesaba or Compass. Pinnacle, maybe. There will be major impacts on regionals not owned by NWA or DAL such as CHQ, RAH, Skywest, etc. NWA/DAL will consolidate regional flying and balance it out between Mesaba, Compass, and possibly Pinnacle. If SLC is kept as a hub, Mesaba and Compass will more and more take over the flying into and out SLC and flying done by Skywest and others not owned by NWA and DAL will be reduced. People talk about ironclad contracts between Skywest and DAL but there is no such thing as an ironclad contract. Merger happens, all bets are off. New entity is legally positioned to accept the existing contract or renegotiate almost all provisions of the existing contract.
Merger will have a major negative impact on regionals not owned by DAL or NWA but may have a positive impact on regionals such as Mesaba.
Merger will have a major negative impact on regionals not owned by DAL or NWA but may have a positive impact on regionals such as Mesaba.
02-20-2008, 01:35 PM
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That's why NWA has both Compass AND Mesaba. I did not say Skywest will go away. Their flying for DAL will decrease in proportion to Mesaba and Compass picking them up gradually. At any case, there will be a major reconsolidation of regionals not owned by either NWA or DAL. The days of the regionals like Skywest and RAH growing out of control is over.
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