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Old 02-15-2008, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Furious George
Does anybody know how many 200's are on property now? I had heard 2 per month but lost track. Thanks.
We currently operate 7. The 8th one begins service on March 15.
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Squawk_5543
Question for MSP guys - For those who are just getting awarded MSP Saab F/O, any idea how long reserve would probably be?
I was *just*awarded MSP SF3 F/O on March 1st. If you look back into who's holding a line in MSP, they started in June '07. I started in August '07. Therefore it looks like about 2-3 months once you're awarded MSP to get a line.

BUT, those lines could be high speeds, which I really don't consider that appealing. I'd rather be on reserve and make the min 75 personally. The guys in the April and May new hire classes are getting nice schedules. RJ85 is certainly right, with no movement, things will slow down. I've prepared myself to be on reserve until 2009.
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gredenko
The guys in the April and May new hire classes are getting nice schedules.

What do you mean by this?

Also, with the addition of new A/C coming all the time, why would you expect to sit reserve the rest of the year?
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilGN
What do you mean by this?

Also, with the addition of new A/C coming all the time, why would you expect to sit reserve the rest of the year?
Here's what I mean.

The top of the April '07 class is holding 16 days off (80 hour credit) in March.

The top of the May '07 class is holding 17 days off (78 hour credit) in March.

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The addition of new aircraft in my opinion isn't as important to guys when considering moving as is the flow through (avoidance of seat locks) and now the NWA/Delta merger. I am pessimistic on my reserve time so I don't get my hopes up and then watch them crumble.
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:43 PM
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you also have to consider the majority of MSP fo's were hired in 07 and some of them will be FO's for a while. I would guess that with a March 1 move date reserve in MSP will be at least 6 months. That is just my guess. SAAB hiring is slowing so movement from the SAAB to the Jet is slowing. (at least MSP CA and FO's) If more SAAB MSP CA's start taking the jet is when the senior MSP FO's will take the upgrade and make more movement for MSP FO's.

This is all just a guess. Someone add if you think differently
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Old 02-16-2008, 05:30 AM
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Seems about right TSWEEN. When the first 200 vacancy came out a few months ago not many SAAB capts were interested but it did go fairly senior. There is a new one out now that closes next week for 11 so we will see how many people jump to the jet.

I was in one of the May '07 classes and when we first got online we could have upgraded right away almost (in DTW though, not MSP). Now vacancies are less frequent and the latest one for the SAAB only has 2 openings so yes, things are stagnating a little around here. If there is one thing I can say for certain it is that I have no idea what the next 6 months will bring so I wouldn't give anyone hope or dash their hope of a good schedule or upgrading.
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Old 02-16-2008, 04:47 PM
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I had a question about jump seating during training. If I remember correctly we as trainees have the opportunity to jump seat on revenue flights on the weekends. Maybe I am wrong, I’d have to read threw my paperwork again, but has anyone done this? Also I would assume they would have you fly with flight crews in the same equipment you are being trained on. My last question is, do you over night with the flight crew or do they make sure your back in MSP the same day you leave?
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Old 02-16-2008, 04:56 PM
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are you trying to jump seat to observe or leisure travel?
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Old 02-16-2008, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tsween
are you trying to jump seat to observe or leisure travel?
Observe, from my understanding we could not leave MSP during training for leisure, but could go on observation flights.
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Old 02-16-2008, 05:14 PM
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Wait until you are done with your systems and get in the sim. Even when you are in the sim it is easier to observe sim lessons than it is to observe revenue flights. If you really want to jumpseat in training i would reccomend showing up in uniform with everything in line. (passport, certificates, and your CASS approval) Until you are done with systems i would concentrate on ground school stuff. Even until you are done with your PC i would only observe sims. Once you are done with sim training would be a better time to actually jumpseat.

and once you are verified with the pass bereau you can non rev anywhere you want to, they want you to stick around and concentrate on studying but you can go home as long as you get back
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