Mesa Air Group stumbles to loss
05-11-2007, 09:13 AM
#21
La Familia Delta
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05-11-2007, 09:25 AM
#22
Gets Weekends Off
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05-11-2007, 09:37 AM
#23
La Familia Delta
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not saying it is. im just more concerned with the attitude of thinking its ok for 1500 hard working pilots to lose their jobs, which by the way all you regional hopefuls is a bad thing because theyll take your xjt or rah or skw job youre excited about.
i dont think its ever right to hope a group of pilots gets furloughed or fired or goes completely away, unless its scabs etc. mesa (except freedom a) pilots dont fall into that category. have some sympathy if something bad does happen, just like you should have sympathy for every other pilot group thats been screwed over
i dont think its ever right to hope a group of pilots gets furloughed or fired or goes completely away, unless its scabs etc. mesa (except freedom a) pilots dont fall into that category. have some sympathy if something bad does happen, just like you should have sympathy for every other pilot group thats been screwed over
05-11-2007, 10:18 AM
#24
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Mesa didn't really "lose" $25 mil, it's just how they had accounting run the numbers. All done to weaken the unions position as they enter negotiations.
Notice the point about Mesa buying back shares? Companies generally only do this for one reason - they think their share price (and resulting market cap) is below current market value.
Notice the point about Mesa buying back shares? Companies generally only do this for one reason - they think their share price (and resulting market cap) is below current market value.
05-11-2007, 10:26 AM
#26
Che Guevara
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Now that's a broad general statement. It doesn't apply to them all. I know some take it for domicile reasons, family, ect., but there are many out there that take it because of a 250hr bridge program and a nice shot of SJS that never gave a damn about what their actions were doing for the industry as a whole. I don't feel sorry for those kind and I know that place is full of them. People are scared to work a little for what they want. You'll see those kinds of guys running for places like gojets.
05-11-2007, 10:27 AM
#27
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So your arguement then is that I should be supportive of pilots that are willing to undercut the industry as well as knowingly work for less money and worse work rules because they didn't want to be a CFI and suck it up past the 600hr mark?
Now that's a broad general statement. It doesn't apply to them all. I know some take it for domicile reasons, family, ect., but there are many out there that take it because of a 250hr bridge program and a nice shot of SJS that never gave a damn about what their actions were doing for the industry as a whole. I don't feel sorry for those kind and I know that place is full of them. People are scared to work a little for what they want. You'll see those kinds of guys running for places like gojets.
Now that's a broad general statement. It doesn't apply to them all. I know some take it for domicile reasons, family, ect., but there are many out there that take it because of a 250hr bridge program and a nice shot of SJS that never gave a damn about what their actions were doing for the industry as a whole. I don't feel sorry for those kind and I know that place is full of them. People are scared to work a little for what they want. You'll see those kinds of guys running for places like gojets.
05-11-2007, 10:46 AM
#28
La Familia Delta
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So your arguement then is that I should be supportive of pilots that are willing to undercut the industry as well as knowingly work for less money and worse work rules because they didn't want to be a CFI and suck it up past the 600hr mark?
Now that's a broad general statement. It doesn't apply to them all. I know some take it for domicile reasons, family, ect., but there are many out there that take it because of a 250hr bridge program and a nice shot of SJS that never gave a damn about what their actions were doing for the industry as a whole. I don't feel sorry for those kind and I know that place is full of them. People are scared to work a little for what they want. You'll see those kinds of guys running for places like gojets.
Now that's a broad general statement. It doesn't apply to them all. I know some take it for domicile reasons, family, ect., but there are many out there that take it because of a 250hr bridge program and a nice shot of SJS that never gave a damn about what their actions were doing for the industry as a whole. I don't feel sorry for those kind and I know that place is full of them. People are scared to work a little for what they want. You'll see those kinds of guys running for places like gojets.
Those kinds of guys? what kinds of guys. with xjt hiring at 600, asa at 300, pinnacle at 300, whiskey at 500, i fail to see your point on what "those kinds of guys" means. i support low time pilots btw so thats not what im talking about.
mesa pilots abide by their contract. i dont understand what youre talking about.
05-11-2007, 10:59 AM
#30
La Familia Delta
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this "my regional is better than yours" attitude is ridiculous. why does it happen? all regionals suck, just hope that you dont end up on the street one day
dont get me wrong, you should still want to be hired at a more stable regional, but dont act like its the best thing since sliced bread
dont get me wrong, you should still want to be hired at a more stable regional, but dont act like its the best thing since sliced bread
Last edited by ghilis101; 05-11-2007 at 11:11 AM.
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