Best Regional NYC Envoy, Endeavor or Republic
12-16-2019, 04:59 AM
#63
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My only concern with Republic is the 2 hour call out on reserve, I agree with you about everything else. I live about 1 hour and 10 minutes from LGA without any traffic at all. With rush hour traffic it could possibly be just over 2 hours. I know it’s only a couple of months if that but was curious how others have handled a similar situation. Envoy has a 3 hour call out in NYC.
3 am reserve ends at 1 pm. They have to give you two hours to get there (unless you waive it) and your pairing has to start within your reserve period, so, at 11 you're off the clock. (if you didn't get called).
I stayed on reserve at my choice for about 5 mos, got the 2 hour call out maybe 3 or 4 times. Even if the assignment was the same day as the call, it was most often several hours out.
You can also proactively drop some reserve days for open time, or so it seems. I didn't do that but it looks like the folks on reserve are doing so. I think you can drop a reserve day at the start or end of a group of days and add it to a day off to pick up a pairing but I don't know all the details. So less actual reserve days.
12-16-2019, 06:22 AM
#64
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[QUOTE=lbell;2939049]
Fixed it for you by moving the Delta interview to a con. The failure rate of the DGI is over 50%, less than 25% of Endeavor pilots go to Delta based on the last year of attrition data. I also moved the "LGA and JFK bases" to a con for codomocile. You have to cover both airports and they only give a $50 stipend to do so. There is no shuttle any more. Enjoy that one can ride!
If you want to come to Endeavor to sit a long reserve in an NYC codomocile, have fun. Just don't come here for a fast upgrade or the delusion that we offer a good path to Delta.
This is turning out to be a very difficult decision between the 3. The pluses and minuses I see so far are.
Envoy
Pluses
1) 3 hour call out
2) AA flow
3) Possibly shorter reserve times
4) Possibly faster upgrade to captain
Minuses
1) Driving to LGA (from South shore eastern Long Island)
2) Quality of life not as good as 2 others?
Endeavor
Pluses
1)
2) Driving to JFK after a little seniority
3) 2 1/2 call out to JFK better than LGA
4) Highest pay for regional, at least that’s what they say
5) Good quality of life
6) CRJ 900
7)
Minuses
1) Possibly longer reserve times
2) Possibly longer upgrade to captain
3. Delta interview
4. NYC codomocile
Republic
1) Possibly shorter reserve time
2) Not sitting in the airport on reserve all day
3) No junior manning
4) E175
5) Good quality of life
6) Better Pilot contract?
Minuses
1) 2 hour call out
2) Driving to LGA
3) Possibly longer upgrade to captain
#5 at Republic needs HIGHER consideration
Ask Envoy Pilots how much their minimum trip guarantee is for a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 day trip vs Republic & Endeavor.
Example: You get called out to fly LGA - BOS, layover, then the next day fly back BOS- LGA and you are done. At Republic, you'll get credited approx 8.5 hrs for that trip.....
Envoy
Pluses
1) 3 hour call out
2) AA flow
3) Possibly shorter reserve times
4) Possibly faster upgrade to captain
Minuses
1) Driving to LGA (from South shore eastern Long Island)
2) Quality of life not as good as 2 others?
Endeavor
Pluses
1)
2) Driving to JFK after a little seniority
3) 2 1/2 call out to JFK better than LGA
4) Highest pay for regional, at least that’s what they say
5) Good quality of life
6) CRJ 900
7)
Minuses
1) Possibly longer reserve times
2) Possibly longer upgrade to captain
3. Delta interview
4. NYC codomocile
Republic
1) Possibly shorter reserve time
2) Not sitting in the airport on reserve all day
3) No junior manning
4) E175
5) Good quality of life
6) Better Pilot contract?
Minuses
1) 2 hour call out
2) Driving to LGA
3) Possibly longer upgrade to captain
#5 at Republic needs HIGHER consideration
Ask Envoy Pilots how much their minimum trip guarantee is for a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 day trip vs Republic & Endeavor.
Example: You get called out to fly LGA - BOS, layover, then the next day fly back BOS- LGA and you are done. At Republic, you'll get credited approx 8.5 hrs for that trip.....
If you want to come to Endeavor to sit a long reserve in an NYC codomocile, have fun. Just don't come here for a fast upgrade or the delusion that we offer a good path to Delta.
12-16-2019, 06:59 AM
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[QUOTE=Green Needles;2939854]
Fixed it for you by moving the Delta interview to a con. The failure rate of the DGI is over 50%, less than 25% of Endeavor pilots go to Delta based on the last year of attrition data. I also moved the "LGA and JFK bases" to a con for codomocile. You have to cover both airports and they only give a $50 stipend to do so. There is no shuttle any more. Enjoy that one can ride!
If you want to come to Endeavor to sit a long reserve in an NYC codomocile, have fun. Just don't come here for a fast upgrade or the delusion that we offer a good path to Delta.
This is great to know, thank you. Any idea how long reserve ir around right now in NY?
Fixed it for you by moving the Delta interview to a con. The failure rate of the DGI is over 50%, less than 25% of Endeavor pilots go to Delta based on the last year of attrition data. I also moved the "LGA and JFK bases" to a con for codomocile. You have to cover both airports and they only give a $50 stipend to do so. There is no shuttle any more. Enjoy that one can ride!
If you want to come to Endeavor to sit a long reserve in an NYC codomocile, have fun. Just don't come here for a fast upgrade or the delusion that we offer a good path to Delta.
12-16-2019, 02:31 PM
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Thank you, I’m just trying to find the best regional for my needs and it seems like all 3 have great benefits. I have heard that too, I should not be chasing metal. It sounds like I might move up the fastest with Envoy but a better quality of life with Republic and Endeavor. I was also planning on staying at a regional because I only have about 14 years before mandatory retirement. I’m not sure if that makes much of a difference in the decision making process.
12-16-2019, 04:22 PM
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Posts: 2,370
Fixed it for you by moving the Delta interview to a con. The failure rate of the DGI is over 50%, less than 25% of Endeavor pilots go to Delta based on the last year of attrition data. I also moved the "LGA and JFK bases" to a con for codomocile. You have to cover both airports and they only give a $50 stipend to do so. There is no shuttle any more. Enjoy that one can ride!
If you want to come to Endeavor to sit a long reserve in an NYC codomocile, have fun. Just don't come here for a fast upgrade or the delusion that we offer a good path to Delta.
12-16-2019, 11:40 PM
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Someone already replied to this, I'll add a little bit. I live in central NJ. I was LGA based at first, on reserve and I live about 1:35 from LGA. 2 + at rush hour. I would get 3am reserve start. Set my alarm for 3, check phone, no call? back to sleep for an hour. Get up shower dress and head for the turnpike. Sit for a couple hours at the closest rest stop to the GW, read a book, then start home. This lasted all of 3 months, then I was given a line. (I went back to bidding reserves because I preferred weekends off, but that's on me)
3 am reserve ends at 1 pm. They have to give you two hours to get there (unless you waive it) and your pairing has to start within your reserve period, so, at 11 you're off the clock. (if you didn't get called).
I stayed on reserve at my choice for about 5 mos, got the 2 hour call out maybe 3 or 4 times. Even if the assignment was the same day as the call, it was most often several hours out.
You can also proactively drop some reserve days for open time, or so it seems. I didn't do that but it looks like the folks on reserve are doing so. I think you can drop a reserve day at the start or end of a group of days and add it to a day off to pick up a pairing but I don't know all the details. So less actual reserve days.
3 am reserve ends at 1 pm. They have to give you two hours to get there (unless you waive it) and your pairing has to start within your reserve period, so, at 11 you're off the clock. (if you didn't get called).
I stayed on reserve at my choice for about 5 mos, got the 2 hour call out maybe 3 or 4 times. Even if the assignment was the same day as the call, it was most often several hours out.
You can also proactively drop some reserve days for open time, or so it seems. I didn't do that but it looks like the folks on reserve are doing so. I think you can drop a reserve day at the start or end of a group of days and add it to a day off to pick up a pairing but I don't know all the details. So less actual reserve days.
12-17-2019, 03:51 AM
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12-17-2019, 11:02 AM
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The 80% for OTS includes second interviews and your DGI number doesn't. Numbers aren't nearly so disparate if you include second chances. Add in that OTS must as a matter of course have much more competitive resumes to even get the interview and trying to make it like you're comparing apples to apples is laughable.
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