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puddlejumper 11-27-2019 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by apachetype (Post 2930574)
I’d be curious to know if they completed both the Airline App (and appropriately set the target to Aviate) and the application at



https://ual-pro.taleo.net/careersect...ob=DEN00003779



On one of the conference calls the United rep said the intention is to interview all who apply.

At the ALPA Cage Marshall workshop in Chicago on October 9th & 10th, maybe 2 of us were aware of the Taleo application requirement out of the 30 or so folks who were there. That was the day of the first teleconference too though.

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No Land 3 11-27-2019 09:49 AM

I can't help but think that this is a bit snobbish on Uniteds part. The job itself is nothing special.

backtoregionals 11-27-2019 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2930707)
I can't help but think that this is a bit snobbish on Uniteds part. The job itself is nothing special.

They better get rid of this idea that they’re the only major people want to work for. The pilot shortage hasn’t really even got going strong yet. If they are turning down well qualified pilots over purely stupid stuff like the Hogan or something else, they need to re-think their hiring strategy. Why is a captain for a regional flying United owned planes with United ticketed passengers not qualified to fly for United?

I know somebody will say “because they won’t cannibalize their own regionals”. Okay, well guess what..those pilots they turn down can and just might go to one of United’s competitors who doesn’t give a ******* about United’s regional staffing. Instead of gaining a qualified pilot who is already familiar with United’s system, now they’ve potentially lost that pilot to a competitor. Sounds pretty bass ackwards to me.

drywhitetoast 11-27-2019 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by backtoregionals (Post 2930715)
Why is a captain for a regional flying United owned planes with United ticketed passengers not qualified to fly for United?

You guys really need to get over this thinking whether right or wrong. I used to think that way and had a bit of that attitude during my first interview in 2016 with the CPP program. I believe HR can pick up on that and may be one of the reasons I got the TBNT my first go around. I reassessed my thinking for the second go and prepared as though it was an off the street interview and lost the "I deserve to be here because I already fly you pax around attitude".

No Land 3 11-27-2019 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by drywhitetoast (Post 2930739)
You guys really need to get over this thinking whether right or wrong. I used to think that way and had a bit of that attitude during my first interview in 2016 with the CPP program. I believe HR can pick up on that and may be one of the reasons I got the TBNT my first go around. I reassessed my thinking for the second go and prepared as though it was an off the street interview and lost the "I deserve to be here because I already fly you pax around attitude".

I agree, at my company, heard we interviewed some from a competitor who displayed an attitude of, "Convince me why I should work here". Needless to say, you can probably figure out how that worked out for them.
However, after the fact, If you got a TBNT, and you ARE flying their passengers, on their airplanes, it IS stupid and valid for some one to vent some steam on a forum.

backtoregionals 11-27-2019 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by drywhitetoast (Post 2930739)
You guys really need to get over this thinking whether right or wrong. I used to think that way and had a bit of that attitude during my first interview in 2016 with the CPP program. I believe HR can pick up on that and may be one of the reasons I got the TBNT my first go around. I reassessed my thinking for the second go and prepared as though it was an off the street interview and lost the "I deserve to be here because I already fly you pax around attitude".

I didn’t go in their with that attitude. It’s just frustrating how they turn down fully qualified pilots who already fly their metal. Chill.

PhantomHawk 11-27-2019 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2930707)
I can't help but think that this is a bit snobbish on Uniteds part. The job itself is nothing special.

Then why are so many people so upset about not getting it?

sflpilot 11-27-2019 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by backtoregionals (Post 2930793)
I didn’t go in their with that attitude. It’s just frustrating how they turn down fully qualified pilots who already fly their metal. Chill.

If they would just admit that they are running multiple parallel operations for a financial advantage this would not be as big of a deal. No one likes people who lie with impunity.

peepz 11-27-2019 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2930850)
Then why are so many people so upset about not getting it?

Because United is top tier, millionaire career and that the regionals are terrible.

You already knew that though right?

YANXJTPilot 11-28-2019 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2930344)
Whether it's labeled the "CPP" or "AVIATE", that's all it ever was.



While you beat this drum constantly, it was amazing to watch how many that didn't at all conform to being a good employee at the regional made it though. Multiple training failures, often due to attitude. Terrible attendance record, again due to attitude and not family, FMLA, or whatever other issues.

And there's been more than a few from the CPP (pre AVAITE) as well that were complete head scratchers. It's not a one size fits all, BY ANY MEANS.

This. Exactly.


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