I wouldn't care about working for a regional if we got the same payscale, profit sharing, 401k, and benefits. I have a problem with us being treated like $hit in comparison to mainline.

Clean record (couple 141 fails that supposedly don’t matter, but they still ask about them and want you to explain why you look like you are a horrible pilot. So still they still judge you on NON part 121 failures.)

Thought I did well in both HR and the Technical, however I got a TBNT email after approx 3 weeks.

“Dire pilot shortage” guys.
Enjoy.

Got accepted. You can try again in 12 months

Of course you did. Because you don't even know the rules of Aviate.

You're United material because they'll walk all over you because you don't know or won't care about your contract.

If you get a TBNT letter, YOU ARE OUT of Aviate.

AFAIK you can try off the street and I haven't heard of a time restriction on that but how likely do you think that is?

You got interviewed and didn't get hired. Everyone who didn't get a chance now goes ahead of you.

You work at a UAX carrier. Why would they cannibalize MORE of their own feed?

If you get turned down at Aviate, your best bet is to plan on another path until all of the Aviate hires go ahead of you or United comes up with another carrot.

Let's call the new program: "Flip!"

Heads or tails? You're HIRED!

Don't feel bad. They're turning down military/management/union types ON TOP of your qualifications or close to that.

Ideally, they'd still honor those 'old' hard skills/resume points, SOME personality, and a good chunk of consideration given to employees who recommend you.

But I think the mix is shifted to 'soft' skills/soft personality types. (No, that doesn't mean whoever reads this in particular, Frances, just an across the board sea change. So lighten up.)

Yeah, it's a tired old argument about being United material because you basically already ARE as far as the pubic is concerned.

The customer experience is much of the bottom line.

As a whole, when we are staffed, XJT beats United's own metrics.

So as a whole, as far as pilots are concerned, we would be an improvement if you hired ALL of us. OVERALL.

Then it follows that: if United REALLY IS hiring the cream of the crop from XJT, our performance is going to suffer...and United will ask why.

Thoughts
 

Here's a thought:

Dissension sown in the ranks between just off OE FO who got into Aviate and 15 year CA who didn't.

Or whomever.

Discuss.

Whether it's labeled the "CPP" or "AVIATE", that's all it ever was.

While you beat this drum constantly, it was amazing to watch how many that didn't at all conform to being a good employee at the regional made it though. Multiple training failures, often due to attitude. Terrible attendance record, again due to attitude and not family, FMLA, or whatever other issues.

And there's been more than a few from the CPP (pre AVAITE) as well that were complete head scratchers. It's not a one size fits all, BY ANY MEANS.

Congratulate that Captain for now being a flight instructor for United with no additional pay or benefits.

Can someone explain to me what exactly the benefit of Aviate is to someone who might be looking at a regional with it? Seems to me, you have just as good a chance at United coming from a regional without it.