Ideal prep/quals for 121 regionals
07-18-2019, 03:48 PM
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If you built your time using the CFI route, make sure your personal currency is where it should be. Airlines will teach you everything you need to know. They expect you to be instrument current and proficient. If you are struggling to fly at an ATP level in your current aircraft, you’ll struggle in simulator training.
I tell instructors to grab an other instructor and go fly. Borrow or rent a plane. Fly at night under the hood or actual IMC. Fly IFR to an airport more than 50 miles away. Shoot 3 IFR approaches including a full procedure to 2 missed approaches and holding and then land out of the last approach. Switch seats and do the same on the way back to your home base. If you will do this once every month or two, you’ll be far sharper than most coming into initial training.
I tell instructors to grab an other instructor and go fly. Borrow or rent a plane. Fly at night under the hood or actual IMC. Fly IFR to an airport more than 50 miles away. Shoot 3 IFR approaches including a full procedure to 2 missed approaches and holding and then land out of the last approach. Switch seats and do the same on the way back to your home base. If you will do this once every month or two, you’ll be far sharper than most coming into initial training.
07-18-2019, 05:57 PM
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I tell instructors to grab an other instructor and go fly. Borrow or rent a plane. Fly at night under the hood or actual IMC. Fly IFR to an airport more than 50 miles away. Shoot 3 IFR approaches including a full procedure to 2 missed approaches and holding and then land out of the last approach. Switch seats and do the same on the way back to your home base. If you will do this once every month or two, you’ll be far sharper than most coming into initial training.
07-18-2019, 08:54 PM
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Good grief - if you let something as trivial as perceived “corporate buzz phrases” trigger you, then you have to be quite be peach to spend a trip with yourself... Thanks for offering absolutely nothing of substance toward what was asked, slugger, and warmest regards (thought I’d toss in another “corporate buzz phrase” to bring a little more foam to the corners of your piehole!).
There is no ideal. Don’t use corporate buzz phrases like “seat at the table”. Like the others said, get your ratings and time ASAP, have a good attitude, and catch the retirement wave. I would add that you should develop a sense of humor. Pilots tend to be sarcastic and it will make for long 4 day trips if you take things too seriously. Best of luck to you.
07-18-2019, 09:01 PM
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Thanks a lot and I’m grateful for the help - your substantive answer stands out among the chorus of ‘just be able to fog a mirror and try real hard in initial’!
If for some reason hiring slows way down and competitive mins go way up the order of preference would approximately be:
1 Military fixed wing
2 Type rating with high hours (1000+) multi PIC in typed A/C
3 Military rotor
4 High PIC multi turboprop hours
5a High PIC single turboprop hours
5b High PIC piston multi hours
6 CFI
7 All others
Bonus points for college degree and maybe extra bonus points for aviation degree.
As far as what you need in the current environment to succeed show up ready to study hard and drink from the fire hose and be Instrument proficient!!!! You need to be able to HAND fly an ILS within a dot doing 160 knots 10 times out of 10!!! They aren’t putting you in a multi million dollar sim to teach you that!!!
1 Military fixed wing
2 Type rating with high hours (1000+) multi PIC in typed A/C
3 Military rotor
4 High PIC multi turboprop hours
5a High PIC single turboprop hours
5b High PIC piston multi hours
6 CFI
7 All others
Bonus points for college degree and maybe extra bonus points for aviation degree.
As far as what you need in the current environment to succeed show up ready to study hard and drink from the fire hose and be Instrument proficient!!!! You need to be able to HAND fly an ILS within a dot doing 160 knots 10 times out of 10!!! They aren’t putting you in a multi million dollar sim to teach you that!!!
07-18-2019, 09:06 PM
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Good work on the interviews, Mav - I’m sure they’ll be talking about your vast knowledge of Jepp plates for years at all 3 airlines and hopefully you’re well-prepared to not screw up the opportunity the gum-flapping has earned you!
I want to add something to my answer.
1. Don’t be the guy who goes to a public forum asking how to prep for an interview and then get twisted up when someone answers you with something off kilter.
2. Having gone through two successful interviews in the last two weeks, I have something to offer..... but given your quick trigger, I’m afraid I’d be enabling a slam/clicker
3. If you’re willing to publicly flagellate as penance, shoot me a pm. Im 3/3 on interviews so far. I can help you. (For reals)
Enjoy your evening! :-)
1. Don’t be the guy who goes to a public forum asking how to prep for an interview and then get twisted up when someone answers you with something off kilter.
2. Having gone through two successful interviews in the last two weeks, I have something to offer..... but given your quick trigger, I’m afraid I’d be enabling a slam/clicker
3. If you’re willing to publicly flagellate as penance, shoot me a pm. Im 3/3 on interviews so far. I can help you. (For reals)
Enjoy your evening! :-)
07-18-2019, 09:09 PM
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Many thanks - that diversity & foundation is exactly what I’m after, as its one thing to build to (almost) ATP mins, but quite another to maximize the experience & knowledge gained during that time.
Really don’t over think, just get some good diverse experience in the time-building phase.
Here was my path,
PVT - Part 61 school
IR-Comm Multi - Part 141 school
CFI, CFII, MEI - Part 141 school
Right seat - 421
Some charter flying in a 310R
Interned at a Major - (got about 15 hours of sim time in the MD-80 and sat in on the MD-80 systems course)
Instructed - Part 61 school
Part-time charter flying in BE-58
Currently Right seat CRJ
About to be left seat CRJ
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Here was my path,
PVT - Part 61 school
IR-Comm Multi - Part 141 school
CFI, CFII, MEI - Part 141 school
Right seat - 421
Some charter flying in a 310R
Interned at a Major - (got about 15 hours of sim time in the MD-80 and sat in on the MD-80 systems course)
Instructed - Part 61 school
Part-time charter flying in BE-58
Currently Right seat CRJ
About to be left seat CRJ
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
07-18-2019, 09:15 PM
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If you want to detest me for putting in the work earlier than most to understand the industry as a whole & specific situations as well as possible, that’s your prerogative, but nothing I’ve put forward is baseless or ignorant and you know it.
07-18-2019, 09:20 PM
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Thanks a lot - I can see how this would be very beneficial to those instructing and this is also part of the value I see in flying 135/91 as well
If you built your time using the CFI route, make sure your personal currency is where it should be. Airlines will teach you everything you need to know. They expect you to be instrument current and proficient. If you are struggling to fly at an ATP level in your current aircraft, you’ll struggle in simulator training.
I tell instructors to grab an other instructor and go fly. Borrow or rent a plane. Fly at night under the hood or actual IMC. Fly IFR to an airport more than 50 miles away. Shoot 3 IFR approaches including a full procedure to 2 missed approaches and holding and then land out of the last approach. Switch seats and do the same on the way back to your home base. If you will do this once every month or two, you’ll be far sharper than most coming into initial training.
I tell instructors to grab an other instructor and go fly. Borrow or rent a plane. Fly at night under the hood or actual IMC. Fly IFR to an airport more than 50 miles away. Shoot 3 IFR approaches including a full procedure to 2 missed approaches and holding and then land out of the last approach. Switch seats and do the same on the way back to your home base. If you will do this once every month or two, you’ll be far sharper than most coming into initial training.
07-18-2019, 09:41 PM
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Good grief - if you let something as trivial as perceived “corporate buzz phrases” trigger you, then you have to be quite be peach to spend a trip with yourself... Thanks for offering absolutely nothing of substance toward what was asked, slugger, and warmest regards (thought I’d toss in another “corporate buzz phrase” to bring a little more foam to the corners of your piehole!).
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