A question for all the low timers out there...
05-01-2007, 11:05 AM
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Hey WindowSeat, I have a question or you...
If you were a low time pilot looking for a way to make money while flying, and had career asperations of becoming an airline pilot, and understood that seniority is paramount in your desired career field, would YOU:
A) Take up a job flight instructing for $15-19 an hour, with a maximum pay of about $25 an hour, flying a light single and hoping in a year or two a regional carrier hires you to the bottom of their seniority list at that time
or
B) Take a regional airline job that pays $15-22 an hour, with a potential pay rate of around $75 an hour after 8-10 years at the same company, and get on the seniority list NOW and start your career NOW, and fly the aircraft you have dreamed about.
Don't underestimate the power of a dream and a goal, and don't criticize someone who is smart enough to know that a seniority number is the path to progress in this industry.
Had I been offered the same choice when I was a newly minted commercial pilot, there is no doubt in my mind I would have leapt at the opportunity to fly for a regional. In hindsight, would I have been as good a stick or as good a decision maker. No, not by far. But, I would be that much richer, that much more senior, and that much closer to a major goal.
If you were a low time pilot looking for a way to make money while flying, and had career asperations of becoming an airline pilot, and understood that seniority is paramount in your desired career field, would YOU:
A) Take up a job flight instructing for $15-19 an hour, with a maximum pay of about $25 an hour, flying a light single and hoping in a year or two a regional carrier hires you to the bottom of their seniority list at that time
or
B) Take a regional airline job that pays $15-22 an hour, with a potential pay rate of around $75 an hour after 8-10 years at the same company, and get on the seniority list NOW and start your career NOW, and fly the aircraft you have dreamed about.
Don't underestimate the power of a dream and a goal, and don't criticize someone who is smart enough to know that a seniority number is the path to progress in this industry.
Had I been offered the same choice when I was a newly minted commercial pilot, there is no doubt in my mind I would have leapt at the opportunity to fly for a regional. In hindsight, would I have been as good a stick or as good a decision maker. No, not by far. But, I would be that much richer, that much more senior, and that much closer to a major goal.
When you get you job a a decent regional, then you can be ****ed off at Mesa FO's doing the same job you are doing for poverty wages and no time off.
05-01-2007, 12:00 PM
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I love your personal attack based on assumptions of what you think I am . By the way I am in the cockpit whether you desire it to be or not, along with quite of a few other boring frat guys. So while we may not want to talk about model airplanes or the latest version of flight sim, we probably will have something interesting to say, but you probably wont hear it because you will be too busy flying the plane since we obviously cant. Nice flamebait by the way.
05-01-2007, 12:25 PM
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I love your personal attack based on assumptions of what you think I am . By the way I am in the cockpit whether you desire it to be or not, along with quite of a few other boring frat guys. So while we may not want to talk about model airplanes or the latest version of flight sim, we probably will have something interesting to say, but you probably wont hear it because you will be too busy flying the plane since we obviously cant. Nice flamebait by the way.
We need a strong international union that gets information to these kids. Maybe even everyone with a commercial or something like that should have the option to be in alpa, or at least receive information about the industry where their dreams lie. Why do you think plumbers and electricians get so much money? The last few years when we could not strike all airlines we in bankruptcy, i hope things get better.
05-01-2007, 02:42 PM
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I love your personal attack based on assumptions of what you think I am . By the way I am in the cockpit whether you desire it to be or not, along with quite of a few other boring frat guys. So while we may not want to talk about model airplanes or the latest version of flight sim, we probably will have something interesting to say, but you probably wont hear it because you will be too busy flying the plane since we obviously cant. Nice flamebait by the way.
05-01-2007, 02:43 PM
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How many have you flown with? That is quite an ignorant statement. I've only known a few that fly and the ones I have flown with have been exceptional. Also in my experience most of these people are extroverted, interesting individuals and they are a pleasure to be around.
05-01-2007, 02:46 PM
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You're not even making sense anymore. Sew a letter on a sweater? sorry not ivy league buddy. Once again you would be a pleasure on a four day trip.
05-01-2007, 02:51 PM
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05-01-2007, 03:00 PM
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