Essential Supplies for Flying The Line
08-05-2018, 05:44 PM
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08-06-2018, 05:15 AM
#73
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Only things I haven't seen that I carry.
1. Extra roll of ACARs printer paper.
2. Extra reading glasses since I have to wear them now.
3. Sewing kit with extra pin locks.
4. Shout wipes.
5. Spare power cables for electronics such as phone.
1. Extra roll of ACARs printer paper.
2. Extra reading glasses since I have to wear them now.
3. Sewing kit with extra pin locks.
4. Shout wipes.
5. Spare power cables for electronics such as phone.
Last edited by Blackhawk; 08-06-2018 at 05:33 AM.
08-06-2018, 08:31 AM
#74
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I understand the usefulness of using it and think it's silly that the FAA puts such a large barrier in the way of our getting useful safety-related information. But I don't think he said "...don't use it", but "...don't get caught using it". Using unauthorized electronic devices either on a line check or with an FAA jump seater is a good way to get a blemish on your record. Unfortunately, some have gotten so used to using electronic devices in flight that they forget about this in those scenarios. There have been cases of FO's being terminated from legacy carriers for using cell phones in flight and I've heard of some using them with FAA jump seaters. I actually had an FO pull out his cell phone and connect to Wi-Fi during a line check. I had to tell him to turn it off or I would have been in violation of the OM. His debrief lasted a little longer than mine and behind a closed door.
08-06-2018, 11:23 AM
#75
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Top of my head:
Two LED flashlights with rechargeable batteries.
One smaller one that I carry in my pocket on the flightdeck and a slightly larger one for the preflight.
Basic medicine kit in case I accidentally stab myslef or I get the runs. Aspirine and cough drops.
Wipes & sanitizer.
Two iPads, one company one private.
Chargers and cables.
About a gazillion pens and rubber bands and bits and pieces.
Spare reading glasses.
My cool shades and some cheapass shades.
I carry all of that in separate zip lock bags so it doesn’t migrate allover the place.
And I carry hot sauce.
Till the security chick took it.
Now I’m out of hot sauce.
For the love of Hades try and got everything in a roller bag and cockpit bag.
Don’t be the guy hauling three bags around. You’re not an FA.
Two LED flashlights with rechargeable batteries.
One smaller one that I carry in my pocket on the flightdeck and a slightly larger one for the preflight.
Basic medicine kit in case I accidentally stab myslef or I get the runs. Aspirine and cough drops.
Wipes & sanitizer.
Two iPads, one company one private.
Chargers and cables.
About a gazillion pens and rubber bands and bits and pieces.
Spare reading glasses.
My cool shades and some cheapass shades.
I carry all of that in separate zip lock bags so it doesn’t migrate allover the place.
And I carry hot sauce.
Till the security chick took it.
Now I’m out of hot sauce.
For the love of Hades try and got everything in a roller bag and cockpit bag.
Don’t be the guy hauling three bags around. You’re not an FA.
08-06-2018, 11:38 AM
#76
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Top of my head:
Two LED flashlights with rechargeable batteries.
One smaller one that I carry in my pocket on the flightdeck and a slightly larger one for the preflight.
Basic medicine kit in case I accidentally stab myslef or I get the runs. Aspirine and cough drops.
Wipes & sanitizer.
Two iPads, one company one private.
Chargers and cables.
About a gazillion pens and rubber bands and bits and pieces.
Spare reading glasses.
My cool shades and some cheapass shades.
I carry all of that in separate zip lock bags so it doesn’t migrate allover the place.
And I carry hot sauce.
Till the security chick took it.
Now I’m out of hot sauce.
For the love of Hades try and got everything in a roller bag and cockpit bag.
Don’t be the guy hauling three bags around. You’re not an FA.
Two LED flashlights with rechargeable batteries.
One smaller one that I carry in my pocket on the flightdeck and a slightly larger one for the preflight.
Basic medicine kit in case I accidentally stab myslef or I get the runs. Aspirine and cough drops.
Wipes & sanitizer.
Two iPads, one company one private.
Chargers and cables.
About a gazillion pens and rubber bands and bits and pieces.
Spare reading glasses.
My cool shades and some cheapass shades.
I carry all of that in separate zip lock bags so it doesn’t migrate allover the place.
And I carry hot sauce.
Till the security chick took it.
Now I’m out of hot sauce.
For the love of Hades try and got everything in a roller bag and cockpit bag.
Don’t be the guy hauling three bags around. You’re not an FA.
08-06-2018, 12:20 PM
#77
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,888
Top of my head:
Two LED flashlights with rechargeable batteries.
One smaller one that I carry in my pocket on the flightdeck and a slightly larger one for the preflight.
Basic medicine kit in case I accidentally stab myslef or I get the runs. Aspirine and cough drops.
Wipes & sanitizer.
Two iPads, one company one private.
Chargers and cables.
About a gazillion pens and rubber bands and bits and pieces.
Spare reading glasses.
My cool shades and some cheapass shades.
I carry all of that in separate zip lock bags so it doesn’t migrate allover the place.
And I carry hot sauce.
Till the security chick took it.
Now I’m out of hot sauce.
For the love of Hades try and got everything in a roller bag and cockpit bag.
Don’t be the guy hauling three bags around. You’re not an FA.
Two LED flashlights with rechargeable batteries.
One smaller one that I carry in my pocket on the flightdeck and a slightly larger one for the preflight.
Basic medicine kit in case I accidentally stab myslef or I get the runs. Aspirine and cough drops.
Wipes & sanitizer.
Two iPads, one company one private.
Chargers and cables.
About a gazillion pens and rubber bands and bits and pieces.
Spare reading glasses.
My cool shades and some cheapass shades.
I carry all of that in separate zip lock bags so it doesn’t migrate allover the place.
And I carry hot sauce.
Till the security chick took it.
Now I’m out of hot sauce.
For the love of Hades try and got everything in a roller bag and cockpit bag.
Don’t be the guy hauling three bags around. You’re not an FA.
I also carry the mini packets of peanut butter and single servings of Bonne Maman jams.
08-07-2018, 03:38 AM
#78
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Posts: 888
I understand the usefulness of using it and think it's silly that the FAA puts such a large barrier in the way of our getting useful safety-related information. But I don't think he said "...don't use it", but "...don't get caught using it". Using unauthorized electronic devices either on a line check or with an FAA jump seater is a good way to get a blemish on your record. Unfortunately, some have gotten so used to using electronic devices in flight that they forget about this in those scenarios. There have been cases of FO's being terminated from legacy carriers for using cell phones in flight and I've heard of some using them with FAA jump seaters. I actually had an FO pull out his cell phone and connect to Wi-Fi during a line check. I had to tell him to turn it off or I would have been in violation of the OM. His debrief lasted a little longer than mine and behind a closed door.
121.542 Flight crewmember duties.
"(d) During all flight time as defined in 14 CFR 1.1, no flight crewmember may use, nor may any pilot in command permit the use of, a personal wireless communications device (as defined in 49 U.S.C. 44732(d)) or laptop computer while at a flight crewmember duty station unless the purpose is directly related to operation of the aircraft, or for emergency, safety-related, or employment-related communications, in accordance with air carrier procedures approved by the Administrator."
Don't do it, there's no text message or snapchat or even XM weather worth losing your career over.
08-07-2018, 03:50 AM
#79
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,588
This.
121.542 Flight crewmember duties.
"(d) During all flight time as defined in 14 CFR 1.1, no flight crewmember may use, nor may any pilot in command permit the use of, a personal wireless communications device (as defined in 49 U.S.C. 44732(d)) or laptop computer while at a flight crewmember duty station unless the purpose is directly related to operation of the aircraft, or for emergency, safety-related, or employment-related communications, in accordance with air carrier procedures approved by the Administrator."
Don't do it, there's no text message or snapchat or even XM weather worth losing your career over.
121.542 Flight crewmember duties.
"(d) During all flight time as defined in 14 CFR 1.1, no flight crewmember may use, nor may any pilot in command permit the use of, a personal wireless communications device (as defined in 49 U.S.C. 44732(d)) or laptop computer while at a flight crewmember duty station unless the purpose is directly related to operation of the aircraft, or for emergency, safety-related, or employment-related communications, in accordance with air carrier procedures approved by the Administrator."
Don't do it, there's no text message or snapchat or even XM weather worth losing your career over.
08-07-2018, 04:44 AM
#80
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Posts: 888
If you want to be strict in your interpretation? Yes.
If you have a line check or the FAA on board, I'd advise being strict in your interpretation.
Other than that, do what you want, but keep in mind if you post on social media a picture CLEARLY from the flight deck of a commercial airliner, you're documenting your violation of a regulation.
Just a thought. It's your career, you risk it however you like.
If you have a line check or the FAA on board, I'd advise being strict in your interpretation.
Other than that, do what you want, but keep in mind if you post on social media a picture CLEARLY from the flight deck of a commercial airliner, you're documenting your violation of a regulation.
Just a thought. It's your career, you risk it however you like.
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