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Old 04-01-2007, 08:46 AM
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Hi there, I'm wondering if anyone knows, or has possibly had an interview experience where an airline really valued either G1000 or Avidyne time, and if so how many hours would be considered substantial enough to make a difference. Thanks in advance.
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interview at republic didn't say anything about "glass" only MEL.
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A couple friends have said that they found it helpful in the sim as they were already familiar with the scan and interpretation, which are different. I don't think it's going to make the difference in getting the job offer.
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Originally Posted by 7captain7
Hi there, I'm wondering if anyone knows, or has possibly had an interview experience where an airline really valued either G1000 or Avidyne time, and if so how many hours would be considered substantial enough to make a difference. Thanks in advance.
i think, however, that if you have a ton of time on the steam gauges, it will take you a year or so til you are COMPLETELY comfortable with the glass.
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Originally Posted by 7captain7
Hi there, I'm wondering if anyone knows, or has possibly had an interview experience where an airline really valued either G1000 or Avidyne time, and if so how many hours would be considered substantial enough to make a difference. Thanks in advance.
Glass cockpit experience is helpful and necessary in some cases. However, Part 121 experience is more beneficial when applying to fly a jet for a regional. SPEED is the enemy for the "newbie" jet pilot. I know more people who have failed training because they cannot think 100nm ahead of the aircraft. Going from a C172/182 is a tough road, then add in Part 121 Regs, CRM and Required maneuvers (V1 cuts, stalls, GA's). It's a recipe for potential failure.

As an example, Frontier Airlines prefers all their candidates to have glass cockpit experience. They now hire FEW without it. For those that get hired without it, it is an uphill battle during initial training. Instrument scan now becomes instrument stare. Speed and Altitude tapes as well as the skypointer sometimes spell DOOM to the would-be airline candidate if they have never used them before.
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Old 04-01-2007, 10:12 AM
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Glass cockpit experience is helpful and necessary in some cases. However, Part 121 experience is more beneficial when applying to fly a jet for a regional. SPEED is the enemy for the "newbie" jet pilot. I know more people who have failed training because they cannot think 100nm ahead of the aircraft. Going from a C172/182 is a tough road, then add in Part 121 Regs, CRM and Required maneuvers (V1 cuts, stalls, GA's). It's a recipe for potential failure.

As an example, Frontier Airlines prefers all their candidates to have glass cockpit experience. They now hire FEW without it. For those that get hired without it, it is an uphill battle during initial training. Instrument scan now becomes instrument stare. Speed and Altitude tapes as well as the skypointer sometimes spell DOOM to the would-be airline candidate if they have never used them before.
As a result flight schools are racing to fill the flight line with all glass aircraft. In a short time no one will have to really know how to fly anymore. Even private pilots will be able to just push a few buttons and sit back with arms folded.

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As a result flight schools are racing to fill the flight line with all glass aircraft. In a short time no one will have to really know how to fly anymore. Even private pilots will be able to just push a few buttons and sit back with arms folded.

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Hence the low salaries for pilots, because any idiot can fly the plane right? UNTIL THERE IS AN EMERGENCY.
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My take on this is no one really cares to be honest with you. I found it easier to transition to glass later on. I think that someone that has only seen glass ALA future UNDer or Riddle person would have a tougher time transitioning to steam then the other way around.

When I transtioned to the A-320 the 3 of us in my class had zero glass time. All of us found it very easy to transition to.

As for who makes the glass on your training aircraft or whatever you are currently in...it does not matter. It may make you feel more comfortable when you get into something all glass later on, but as for regionals...right now they care only about the following (in most cases)...

You have some TT (maybe 250, maybe 1000) depends on the carrier

You have some multi time (maybe 25 hours maybe 250 hours)

You have a heart beat (most airlines are looking to just fill their FO seat with a warm body)

You will work for very little pay in comparison to your school loans (IE. $25000 a year to pay back that 80-100K school loan.)
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It only takes probably 10 hours to get used to a new presentation on electronic displays...
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i think, however, that if you have a ton of time on the steam gauges, it will take you a year or so til you are COMPLETELY comfortable with the glass.
I dunno I was on the SAAB, mostly steam, had EFIS, but airspeed an altitude were steam.............I got pretty comfortable with the glass after a couple of or so, I would say leveling off is probably the hardest.......at least for me
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