What should pay be on the crj and the 700/900?
#11
Also, FO wages need to be at least 60% of CA wages. At that rate based upon the numbers thrown out by PinnacleFO, 3rd year FO rates (50/70) would be $45/48 and 5th year $51/54.
Those 70 seat scales would be equal or better than the 146 FO payrate under the 2001 AWAC contract...which would go a LONG way toward getting us all toward where we should be regarding hourly compensation.
#12
While that would be GREAT...it ain't gonna happen in today's ultra competitive contract regional carrier environment, with folks always willing to do it for less in order to get that fast upgrade.
Also, FO wages need to be at least 60% of CA wages. At that rate based upon the numbers thrown out by PinnacleFO, 3rd year FO rates (50/70) would be $45/48 and 5th year $51/54.
Those 70 seat scales would be equal or better than the 146 FO payrate under the 2001 AWAC contract...which would go a LONG way toward getting us all toward where we should be regarding hourly compensation.
Also, FO wages need to be at least 60% of CA wages. At that rate based upon the numbers thrown out by PinnacleFO, 3rd year FO rates (50/70) would be $45/48 and 5th year $51/54.
Those 70 seat scales would be equal or better than the 146 FO payrate under the 2001 AWAC contract...which would go a LONG way toward getting us all toward where we should be regarding hourly compensation.
Your right though, in a perfect world pilots would demand more.
#14
The RACE TO THE BOTTOM!
There will always be someone willing to do it for less. Just check out the crap they serve at Olive Garden. Check out the $1.00 deals at Wendy's Micky D's, etc. All this stuff is filled with "crap", (i.e fillers). Food companies put crap in their food to take up space. That's what airlines are doing.
Will people pay for quality? (YES!) Look at WFM (Whole Foods Market). Probably the most expensive groceries you will ever buy. BUT PEOPLE ARE BUYING THEM.
1) Does it cost more to take off on time and land on time (barrring weather)? YES! it does. You need more rampers, more gate agents, more fuelers, more mechanics, quicker flight crews, etc.
2) Does it take more people to lower the mishandled bags. YES it does. See reasons above.
Airlines have always been REACTIVE. One of the only airlines I know that is proactive is Southwest. Amazing, they are one of the few continually profitable airlines. They anticipate problems BEFORE they happen. Other airlines? Just take a look!!!
Will people pay for quality? (YES!) Look at WFM (Whole Foods Market). Probably the most expensive groceries you will ever buy. BUT PEOPLE ARE BUYING THEM.
1) Does it cost more to take off on time and land on time (barrring weather)? YES! it does. You need more rampers, more gate agents, more fuelers, more mechanics, quicker flight crews, etc.
2) Does it take more people to lower the mishandled bags. YES it does. See reasons above.
Airlines have always been REACTIVE. One of the only airlines I know that is proactive is Southwest. Amazing, they are one of the few continually profitable airlines. They anticipate problems BEFORE they happen. Other airlines? Just take a look!!!
#15
First step help them understand that they are severely underpaid and the company can afford to pay more.
#18
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Do you have your app in at CAL? This may happen in the future at JFK and other over worked stations. I read an article about limiting regionals into JFK after the JBL debacle.
#19
In Europe the airport authorities set a max number of movements per hour and capped it. Not that it is a utopia there, but there seems to a bit of a less of a race to the bottom over there.
Anyway, Mr. Rooski is right. There is no reason to flood the skies with RJs when small Boeings or Airbuses can do the same job every 90 minutes or 120 minutes more comfortably and cheaper than 2 RJs every 45 minutes.
But the genius MBAs who run the show don't get that for some reason.....
#20
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haha 9 Multi-Turbine to go then Ill apply, although its a waste of time becuase my dad doesn't work there and I dont have any recs.............................................. Its oke the pilot group isnt the best over there